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Baby killed in bed by a dog called 'killer'.

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malfosse said:
My point is, it's more the training (or lack of it) that has a greater bearing on the probability of the dog biting, rather than the breed of dog.
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Agreed. Although there is no doubt that some dogs are more difficult to train or potentially more dangerous (locking jaws etc..), or more to the point these dogs that are more difficult to train often end up in the hands of people who have no intention of training them.
 
Labradors do indeed bite more people than any other dog in the UK each year. Stats are tricky though because there are probably more Labradors owned than any other in the UK.

Also as Labradors are not a status breed for people who probably shouldn't own ANY dog, they tend not to be left unattended around children. Leaving any kind of dog un-supervised in a room with a young child is simply irresponsible. I have a staffie and she has never shown aggression towards any human (even when the vet is squirting vaccine up her nose), I would still never leave her alone in a room with young children. Pitbulls, staffies and any supposedly dangerous dog are chosen by too many people who have a dog and are not mentally equipped to own one.
 
Baines' left foot said:
Agreed. Although there is no doubt that some dogs are more difficult to train or potentially more dangerous (locking jaws etc..), or more to the point these dogs that are more difficult to train often end up in the hands of people who have no intention of training them.
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That's the problem there mate. These idiots -- the kind not likely to train their dogs -- are drawn to breeds which are dangerous if not trained properly. They're not necessarily breeds that are more problematic (for example German Shepherds have an incredibly powerful bite but they're also immensely intelligent and are very easy to train) but breeds that require more responsibility. A Jack Russell that's poorly trained and a Bull Terrier that's poorly trained could be equally bad behaviourally, but only one will do real damage.

I don't agree with Brennan's attitude towards these breeds though. Some of them are fantastic dogs and much like things like alcohol aren't necessary for human life, but having one of these dogs is something that people have a right to, and something many people love. If you're responsible, it's fine.

It's just a shame these scummy dog owners aren't mad for Yorkshire Terriers. FFS.
 
malcson said:
Labradors do indeed bite more people than any other dog in the UK each year. Stats are tricky though because there are probably more Labradors owned than any other in the UK.

Also as Labradors are not a status breed for people who probably shouldn't own ANY dog, they tend not to be left unattended around children. Leaving any kind of dog un-supervised in a room with a young child is simply irresponsible. I have a staffie and she has never shown aggression towards any human (even when the vet is squirting vaccine up her nose), I would still never leave her alone in a room with young children. Pitbulls, staffies and any supposedly dangerous dog are chosen by too many people who have a dog and are not mentally equipped to own one.
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I too have a Staffie and he is the softest thing you could imagine. They are a breed recommended for families, but you still have to have them trained and socialised, and i'm sure the people you see out on the streets do not do this.
 
RadioFriendlyUnitShifter said:
That's the problem there mate. These idiots -- the kind not likely to train their dogs -- are drawn to breeds which are dangerous if not trained properly. They're not necessarily breeds that are more problematic (for example German Shepherds have an incredibly powerful bite but they're also immensely intelligent and are very easy to train) but breeds that require more responsibility. A Jack Russell that's poorly trained and a Bull Terrier that's poorly trained could be equally bad behaviourally, but only one will do real damage.

I don't agree with Brennan's attitude towards these breeds though. Some of them are fantastic dogs and much like things like alcohol aren't necessary for human life, but having one of these dogs is something that people have a right to, and something many people love. If you're responsible, it's fine.

It's just a shame these scummy dog owners aren't mad for Yorkshire Terriers. FFS.
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Totally agree with the first paragraph. I think you highlighted the difference well, irresponsible dog owners should not be allowed access to these dangerous dogs, but then how do you police it? I get your points in the second paragraph but I still think it is irresponsible and totally unnecessary to own a dangerous dog if you've got young children.
 

malfosse said:
I too have a Staffie and he is the softest thing you could imagine. They are a breed recommended for families, but you still have to have them trained and socialised, and i'm sure the people you see out on the streets do not do this.
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Staffies have locking jaws too don't they? I've come across a few and they've all been lovely. Very lively though!
 
I've got a 7 month old and it's safe to say that if we had a dog in the house (supposedly dangerous or not) and the baby was upstairs asleep there is not a chance the dog would have access to upstairs, let alone the room the baby was sleeping in. Irrespective of your view on dangerous dogs, that's just stupid parenting.
 

Bungle said:
I've got a 7 month old and it's safe to say that if we had a dog in the house (supposedly dangerous or not) and the baby was upstairs asleep there is not a chance the dog would have access to upstairs, let alone the room the baby was sleeping in. Irrespective of your view on dangerous dogs, that's just stupid parenting.
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He has used stars just like I did. I expect to see a red card on this, just like mine.
 

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