Ban the Burka

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

Sorry, I shouldn't have used the Jewish cap as an example as you just try to pointlessly counter. Ok.......necklaces. They have no real function. Lets ban them. And while we are at it, all socks that go past your ankle. That top bit really doesn't do anything does it. Oh and sunglasses.....those cover your eyes, and ball-caps, they cover your head, all security issues. [Poor language removed], you know what....lets just turn ourselves into a police state, enforce a mandatory curfew and shoot any criminals, no matter how small the crime, on sight.

Get over it and stop being xenophobic. The world isn't becoming Islamic any more than it was 20 years ago. They only things that change is perception.

But as arguing with a brick wall shows, me typing this out is kinda pointless, as I am not going to undo years of deep-seated upbringing.

can we not have a naked month to see how we all get along ? shed the shackles of oppression, where the only thing covering your modesty is your unshorn bush.

 

[Muggins]

Sharpy, it might surprise you, but we live in a multicultural society, which is why we do not ban turbans, rasta tams, hats worn by orthodox jewish men, sari's or even men dressed as women. The only laws I know about related to clothing is indecency laws.

And someone wearing a balaclava wouldn't automatically be surrounded by police, it depends on the context. What if it was deep winter? Would you shoot someone for wearing a balaclava?

What's so sad about this "debate" is that it's one based on nothing more than fear.

It has nothing to do with culture or a British way of life, that's BS.

Okay you got me, I am genuinely affraid to leave my home, I am offended by everything, and I don't know which religion to pick.

Can I choose Everton as my official religion, and wear my Everton shirts all the time...

I'd be ridiculed, but Political correctness is on my side.

 

[BlackToffee]

Okay you got me, I am genuinely affraid to leave my home, I am offended by everything, and I don't know which religion to pick.

Can I choose Everton as my official religion, and wear my Everton shirts all the time...

I'd be ridiculed, but Political correctness is on my side.

Now this is the level of debate we should be at. Choose to go off topic anytime folks.

I'd love to do that. Even at work to throughly annoy my rs, spud colleagues.

 

[Muggins]

Now this is the level of debate we should be at. Choose to go off topic anytime folks.

I'd love to do that. Even at work to throughly annoy my rs, spud colleagues.

I thought I had a point as well...

Goodison is my church, where i worship my idols.

My other favourite religion is worshipping "Horus". You can read his Biography here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus#Horus

Just follow the links and donate £2 a month. We are also exempt from tax.

 

[Blue 1]

"I know guys, let's emancipate women by removing their freedom of choice". Way to go Sarkozy, you massive belmer!

Women who are forced to wear the burqa will now just be forced to stay in the home anyway, so all this will acheive is to marginalise an already marginalised people. Stupid.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Sharpy, it might surprise you, but we live in a multicultural society, which is why we do not ban turbans, rasta tams, hats worn by orthodox jewish men, sari's or even men dressed as women. The only laws I know about related to clothing is indecency laws.

And someone wearing a balaclava wouldn't automatically be surrounded by police, it depends on the context. What if it was deep winter? Would you shoot someone for wearing a balaclava?

What's so sad about this "debate" is that it's one based on nothing more than fear.

It has nothing to do with culture or a British way of life, that's BS.

Why not just call anyone who disagrees with you a Racist and have done with it.

It will stop all the [Poor language removed] you spout!!!

 

[Muggins]

Quite frankly, I'm offended.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

Quite frankly, I'm offended.

By what??

 

[EFCNIK]

I resent being called a racist, its nothing to do with race, it's to do with an item of clothing. You get white British muslim converts who wear the Burkah and I'd tell them the same thing. The thing that people are repeatedly ignoring is the fact that it is an unnessessary religeous garment. The Quran doesnt teach to wear the Burkah. It teaches to wear the headscarf which is absolutly fine!! It serves only to opress women. We are talking about fachts, only fachts.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

I resent being called a racist, its nothing to do with race, it's to do with an item of clothing. You get white British muslim converts who wear the Burkah and I'd tell them the same thing. The thing that people are repeatedly ignoring is the fact that it is an unnessessary religeous garment. The Quran doesnt teach to wear the Burkah. It teaches to wear the headscarf which is absolutly fine!! It serves only to opress women. We are talking about fachts, only fachts.

Thats several times now you've referered to religion and Islam in regards to the burka, then said its not a religous garment.

If its about women being oppressed by men why keep bringing Islam in to it? Ok possibly because the burka is only worn by muslim women but if its not a religious garment then thats just a coincidental point which has nothing to do with your argument.

Would you ban the sweater cause some white English christians make their girlfriends were them to cover themselves up so other men don't stare at their breasts?

 

[EFCNIK]

Thats several times now you've referered to religion and Islam in regards to the burka, then said its not a religous garment.

If its about women being oppressed by men why keep bringing Islam in to it? Ok possibly because the burka is only worn by muslim women but if its not a religious garment then thats just a coincidental point which has nothing to do with your argument.

Would you ban the sweater cause some white English christians make their girlfriends were them to cover themselves up so other men don't stare at their breasts?

Because its only Islamic men who enforce it?! Yes it is completly coincedental that it's Islamic people that wear it, if it were Christians I'd have exactly the same view. The reason I keep referring to Islam is my point that the Quran doesnt teach it, so it is unnessential. PLEASE stop using christians to back up your argument, Im not a christian. Im nothing. If I cam on here bad mouthing christianity would you then counter with the bad things about Islam? Of course you wouldnt because you fear being called a racist.

This country has gone far to PC. Tbh we tolerate too much s*ite. Rallies against East Anglian soldiers, hate marches and preaching. I know this has gone slightly off topic as I am now talking about certain types of Muslim but its in relation to the fact that you will let them get away with whatever they want!

You're clutching at straws dude. I'm sorry, the Burkah has no place. I've mentioned why and gave 3 valid points. Go back if you have the time. You are in the minority if you think the Burkah should be allowed. As I say even some Muslims understand these FACHTS and realise it is an oppression against women, an instrument of control in a society where the female is seen as inferior. That is not OUR society therefore it should NOT be allowed. There is a difference between toleration and having a multi cultural society, and just plane not conforming to the most basic of social conducts. Having your face displayed in public.

 

[chicoazul]

If its no concern to you, then why not leave it be? It certainly doesn't infringe on your life and the women wear it with consent, not like you suggest, so where is the problem?

You're a stereotype mate.

 

[EFCNIK]

If its no concern to you, then why not leave it be? It certainly doesn't infringe on your life and the women wear it with consent, not like you suggest, so where is the problem?

You're a stereotype mate.

Well it doesnt affect yous yet you feel the need to stick up for it. Who doesn't feel uncomfortable when there's a ninja standing behind you in a shopping queue. Who instantly doesn't recognise the one burkah wearer in a crowd of people. It's just not England.

 

[EFCNIK]

Tbh whilst this debate has been quite fun/infuriating, we should just agree to disagree. You dont mind the Burkah, I like most of the population, do. It's cool!

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Well it doesnt affect yous yet you feel the need to stick up for it. Who doesn't feel uncomfortable when there's a ninja standing behind you in a shopping queue. Who instantly doesn't recognise the one burkah wearer in a crowd of people. It's just not England.

I don't. I couldn't give a [Poor language removed] if there is someone standing behind me in a queue wearing a burka.

Got any proof that they have been worn by people commiting crimes as you alleged earlier?

And what is England? Thats a ridiculous statement.

"england" has changed a hell of a lot over the years so there is no defining defintion of what it is. And it continues to change.