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Now listen here, all you tiny people who live in my smart phone - we are an historic club, and as someone displayed previously, have been dire for 30 years and are still one of the most successful clubs going.
Don’t let a club spending their way to trophies make you forget that.
Don’t let a club spending their way to trophies make you forget that.
No, financial doping mate.
There is no skill at all required - its easy to build when there are no limits or they don't stay within the limits- its impossible for City to fail - accepting it is colluding with it. I would laud them if they were playing with the same deck as everyone else they aren't and its well documented by some of the best sporting investigative journalists in the world, they have been found guilty of it and are facing a further 115 charges. That's not ok, it destroys competitive sport, integrity and denies others of their fair rewards and undermines the integrity of competitions.
City's titles and their progress all have a massive * beside them.
I hate this 'we're a bigger club than you' nonsense. It smacks of snobberey and just gives a (very flimsy) excuse for the likes of WBA (11th in the table, not won anything since 1968) and Preston (26th in the table - not won anything since before the industrial revolution) to look down on others. It's just a desperate attempt to put those 'plucky little clubs' that have the temerity to win things without spending gazillions (Leicester?, Coventry, Ipswich?) in their place. History is fine, and it's good to acknowledge it, but the 'big club' thing suggests a feeling of entitlement that, just because you won something years ago/are based in a large city you have a divine right to beat the 'lesser' reams. I hate in in others and i hate it in us. We haven't won anything since 1995. We're not a big club and i'd never refer to us as one, even if we went on a run of success similar to City's.
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
We also financially doped, only we took the sleeping pill version, that’s why we have a charge over our heads also
Every club has to spend above their means just to compete, Leicester, for example, are pushing borders not helped by their relegation. To denegrate City’s achievements because of off field matters smacks of extreme bitterness and an insult to the City squad who’ve put 100% effort on the pitch where it ultimately matters
Marc bolan
Player Valuation: £8m
Marc bolan
Player Valuation: £8m
One domestic trophy in 35 years relative nobodies eh
My da is bigger than your da!
City are more successful on and off the pitch now, regardless of how they got there. The end.
City are more successful on and off the pitch now, regardless of how they got there. The end.
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £35m
Man City unfortunately, even if it was triggered by oil state backed money. They have got some number of top division titles as us now, only a matter of time before they win their next one. They have now won the CL, have more trophies generally in their cabinet than us. It’s not fair on how it’s been achieved, but it is what it is.
Thats not really a nuanced view though is it. we had to take our medicine, do you remember a summer where City had to sign Townsend and Gray for 1.7 mill to comply, did they have to sell their best players to comply, do they constantly have to trim their wage bill ..................no.
Clubs have to spend beyond their means to compete...........why? Its because if CIty are the bar and doing that unfairly - then inflation means other clubs have to spend beyond their means within the rules to compete - that why Arsenals and Inters achievements outstrip Citys.
Ive no feelings one way or the other toward City - actually really liked them when they were a proper football club with Kinkladze etc and used to root for them when Joe had them down in the leagues.
My take is a criticism seeing the impact of what they do and the unfairness of the competition because of it - if you laud it you collude with it and its not right, im not insulting the City squad at all - brilliant football team- love watching them play - but its like watching the Harlem Globetrotters - its not real or organic - im criticising how it all came about unfairly - the world knows its unfair and they are bang to rights- and because of that i am definitely minimizing the achievement - 100% - i dont think it holds much meaning at all - not that the team aren't good enough to do it.
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Magus
Player Valuation: £8m
I take on board all of the arguments about their financial power, but it has still taken a great manager a long time to get the right mix on the playing side. All of the successful teams in Europe benefit from obscene levels of financial clout.
It's not as if the current City team has world class superstars in every position - Ake, Akanji, Walker, Ederson and even the likes of Stones and Foden would not generally be considered the top men in their position. We should give credit where it's due, and I think they are worthy of praise for their footballing achievements.
It's not as if the current City team has world class superstars in every position - Ake, Akanji, Walker, Ederson and even the likes of Stones and Foden would not generally be considered the top men in their position. We should give credit where it's due, and I think they are worthy of praise for their footballing achievements.
Micky_T
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Comparing the size of football clubs is the same as comparing the size of companies.
Who is bigger Amazon or Coca Cola?
Amazon has a market cap of $1.3 trillion but it's only existed for about 25 years. Coca Cola has become a household name since 1886 but it's only worth $330 billion.
Amazon are the Manchester City, the new kids on the block. Coca Cola are Everton with a long history, great in the 1980s but considerably smaller.
Who is bigger Amazon or Coca Cola?
Amazon has a market cap of $1.3 trillion but it's only existed for about 25 years. Coca Cola has become a household name since 1886 but it's only worth $330 billion.
Amazon are the Manchester City, the new kids on the block. Coca Cola are Everton with a long history, great in the 1980s but considerably smaller.
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
That’s not City’s fault though is it? That’s our own stupidity caused by the madcap owner not curbing overspending on certain players and hiring bog standard managers (outside of Ancelotti)
City at the beginning were like we have been, wasting money on the likes of Adebayor, Santa Cruz etc then it clicked once they signed Silva, Aguero etc and hired Mancini and carried on clicking with Pellegrini and Guardiola
You know what they have been found guilty of in Europe and what they are charged with in the PL right? The didn't have to redact like us because of what they are charged with - they had/have no limits. Would City be winning the CL if they had to sell all their forward players like us to comply?
What City did and do - was/is to good to be true and it is/was.
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