Bigger Club: Everton or Man City

[the golden visionary]

One just did the treble.

The other avoided relegation on the final day

 

[Fralahna]

Question isn't clear mate.

 

[Daz1878]

We're the bigger club, while they're the bigger cloob

 

[Joey66]

Only if BK had found 30-40 million to borrow for the King Dock Stadia their owners would have purchased us instead of City .....- No way we can now compete even with teams, lower than them now .....

Unless we get a massive sale of our club ......

 

[Connor]

Lads, they've won *everything*

 

[Cameron Manning]

That biggest attendance at Maine Rd was for an FA Cup game. I think the biggest league attendance there was for a Man Utd (home) game v Arsenal, not a City match(when they relocated after the war while Old Trafford was repaired).

After the war Utd overtook City in terms of support. City's attendances had a flourish in the mid 70s to early 80s..... and were steady enough after, but according to "through the turnstiles" (Tabner) historically Everton's were normally higher.

I think the record attendance was over 84, 000 for a game between Man City v Stoke City in 1934.

 

[Daytripper]

City

It was frustrating when people would go on about us being a big club, it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things if you become more irrelevant as each year passes whilst others comfortably leap ahead of you.

What kind of a big club accepts “the best of the rest” “knives to a gun fight” and finishing sixth, seventh, eight and constantly being knocked out of cup competitions? They don’t. A number of people in regards to Everton did accept it. Not only accepted it but actually went out of their way to defend it and the people behind that kind of monotonous culture.

City: The needs of the few also benefit the many

Everton: The needs of the few have not benefited the needs of many.

You can’t keep pointing to nine league titles when as the years pass clubs overtake it or look the more likely to do so.

Hate to say all this, I firmly believe it to be true because being critical is the only way I see the club ever waking up so it gets better

 

[Goodison87]

Can’t argue with our esteemed history and tradition, we’re a grand old club ok.

City in a league of their own now, possibly have the geordies right behind them soon. Money ball! Then the next level of clubs who can almost keep up with them, when they take their turns. The rest of us make the numbers up and it’s quite telling on how much attention and following the relegation battles get, they are actually unpredictable and very interesting to most.

Sandfly don’t really see the premier league a a competition any more. Hopefully things change at some point..

 

[Cameron Manning]

Another example of poor journalism. Firstly John Moores was born and brought up in what is now Greater Manchester. He was never a teenager on Goodison's terraces. He started his pools business distributing pools coupons outside Old Trafford.

He came into the club in 1960. Only a few years after the club had the highest average attendance in the country and were constantly in the top few best supported.... in comfortably the finest stadium. Yes, he helped underwrite the signing spree of the 60s, but financially that was all covered by our matchday and other incomes, which were at least the match of any other club.

That in relative and/or real terms is not the same as Man City's rise.

Yes I think John Moore’s helped Everton FC financially mostly by giving them interest free loans, which were all repaid to the club. He also helped Everton and Liverpool with the installation of both clubs floodlights, not sure if these were also loans, I think he was a shareholder at both clubs at one time.

 

[Billy Dean]

…..weird we spend loads and just avoid relegation.

Having big bucks might be an advantage but it takes more than that to build a successful football team. City’s success wasn’t instant despite their spending power.

i remember when we were the Merseyside millionaires, there’s always been haves and have-nots even if the monies spent these days are obscene.

I think what City realised early on is that it's not just about buying good players and hiring big name managers, but also about installing a proper infrastructure behind them. The Saudis look to have grasped that too at NUFC.

 

[MisterJ]

Even with a hefty helping of recency bias, who are the bigger club?

Before the premier league came in it was easily us, but as we've done nothing since 1995 and in the last 10 years they've done everything, I'm afraid City are much bigger than us now.

But their fans are better than United's

 

[Marc bolan]

Yes.... we are relative nobodies now.
They were relative nobodies over the previous 100+yrs.

Sorry I though you said in the last half century

 

[Eggs]

I think what City realised early on is that it's not just about buying good players and hiring big name managers, but also about installing a proper infrastructure behind them. The Saudis look to have grasped that too at NUFC.

….yep. You look at the monies thrown at United since SAF & the Reds before Klopp arrived. Money certainly helps but it’s not everything. Agree about NUFC, they seem to be transitioning very well.

 

[Dr Baxter]

I think what City realised early on is that it's not just about buying good players and hiring big name managers, but also about installing a proper infrastructure behind them. The Saudis look to have grasped that too at NUFC.

Yeah, exactly. The new facilities they have next to the stadium are very impressive. Also, they have 5/6 mini Man Citys around the world to help with recruitment and player development. I don't see City being anything other than massive now forever.

 

[judge]

Interesting deduction. I'm 50 and I firmly believe Everton are a far bigger club than City.

But we can measure it in different ways sadly they're relevant, they've just won the European Cup, they've just won the league, they've just won the FA Cup. They have 9 titles now like us. They're very rich if not the richest club (?) their success in the last 10 years or so firmly puts them on the map. Just like Chelsea in the decade or so before.

We're a club with an illustrious history but having stood still for 30 years we've become very irrelevant. Other than to us and others to mock.

But as fans we carry the club and that makes us a far bigger club than City or even Chelsea, or West Ham or Leicester. Or Newcastle.

Emotive twaddle i'm afraid. All fans think that their clubs fans are the best and carry the team through the hard times (even Chelsea, Newcastle, etc). If it were true we wouldn't have been desperately trying to avoid relegation for the last 2 seasons. And someone like Sunderland would be winning the Premiership.