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Bill Kenwright

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Cameron Manning said:
He shouldn’t have invited her onto the board in the first place,they deserve each other, she’s worked her way up to this appointment and accepted these promotions without any credentials to do the job she finally finished up with hopefully Everton are finished with her.
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It seems she is more interested in property development. Also taking Ju-Jitsu lessons to deal with the fans
 
davek said:
You support all this madenss when we're 4th from bottom of the PL and we need everyone focussed on that?

Ok.
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I support the right to any peaceful protest. But it has absolutely no bearing on my opinion. I dont need anyone else to tell me stuff that is absolutely obvious.

My personal opinion is that we as fans have failed in our duty and all this is far too little too late. We should have demanded better from the club and asked for positive changes many years ago.

The statement yesterday by BK was divisive and undermined the manager. Nothing done before matches by fans has done that.
 
MikeH72 said:
“The honest amongst the fans will hold their hands up and admit that they along with the club hierarchy contributed to this mess.”

This sounds like you’re talking about the fans Dave.
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That doesn't contract what I said about not being about the fans per se.
 
ToffeeTim said:
I support the right to any peaceful protest. But it has absolutely no bearing on my opinion. I dont need anyone else to tell me stuff that is absolutely obvious.

My personal opinion is that we have fans have failed in our duty and all this is far too little too late. We should have demanded better from the club and asked for positive changes many years ago.
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Do you think this circus over Kenwright in the last week has been at all helpful in saving this club from relegation? Because that's the only measuring rod for it as far as I'm concerned.
 

davek said:
It's the oddest fan movement I've seen - and I've seen a lot. It gives the impression of being organic but to me it's a BS front for something or someone.

The dead give away for me is their refusal to demand that Moshiri goes. That suggests to me they dont want to alienate a man who others have to deal with. So they go for the soft target of Kenwright and DBB instead - two utter balloons with zero real power to affect anything.

As you say, this is unforgivable at a time like now when we face an existential threat. I will never forgive these people if we dont survive. In my mind they will be just as infamous as Kenwright and Moshiri.
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Thats my analaysis to.

One of the things i would also query is its governance structure, strategy and communication - who was it that made the decision to bring up health grounds, was it a person, was it a group. a hierarchy - who is that, how was it decided, who decides the strategic approach, who fundss it - for a group that wants communication and transparency in decision making - there is little coming the other way.

The premise isnt binary and thats the peice people are confused about - its like Brexit politics black and white thinking, its possible to want change at the club and not be supportive of the approach of altogether now - the two things can exist together - thats the piece people are lost in or are afraid to query because they will be accused of being one or the other and not questioning is never healthy - nothing is ever absolute or binary - what if there could be a better protest movement!?!- do they get to do anything they like in the name in the fans simily because they "protest" - sorry no.
 
davek said:
Do you think this circus over Kenwright in the last week has been at all helpful in saving this club from relegation? Because that's the only measuring rod for it as far as I'm concerned.
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I dont see any circus so I dont understand your point. All I saw was a baffling statement by the chairman that undermined the manager and players.

I couldn't care less about noise on social media. Its totally irrelevant.

So to answer your question, I dont believe fan discussion has any impact whatsoever on our chances of survival. The way the club has been run clearly has had a huge impact on whether we will be relegated.
 
Neiler said:
Thats my analaysis to.

One of the things i would also query is its governance structure, strategy and communication - who was it that made the decision to bring up health grounds, was it a person, was it a group. a hierarchy - who is that, how was it decided, who decides the strategic approach, who funds sit - for a group that wants communication and transparency in decision making - there is little coming the other way.

The premise isnt binary and thats the peice people are confused about - its like Brexit politics balk and white thinking, its possible to want change at the club and not be supportive of the approach of altogether now - the two things can exist together - thats the piece people are lost in or are afraid to query because they will be accused of one or the other and not questioning is never healthy - nothing is ever absolute or binary - what if there could be a better protest movement!?!
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The simple response to that angle is how will change ever come about if fans do not do anything to encourage changes to be made?
 
davek said:
Do you think this circus over Kenwright in the last week has been at all helpful in saving this club from relegation? Because that's the only measuring rod for it as far as I'm concerned.
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Kenwright is the ringmaster, Dave.

There is NEVER a good time to pressure him. There is ALWAYS a reason to hold off, wait, defer. We've been deferring for 24 years.

The main singular reason the club is fighting relegation is...Chairman Bill.

This season's relegation battle is simply that - a battle. The war will never be won as long as Chairman Bill remains in situ, dousing the club in his putrid cologne of managed decline with alluring hints of fragrant, overly-sweet sentimentality.
 

Big Sams Undies said:
As predicted, Bill pulls the sympathy card out as soon as his health was mentioned.

Amateur move that played right into the snivelling fat pigs hands.

We all knew how this would play out.

I absolutely detest the parasite but giving him easy opportunities like this is extremely silly.
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have you seen the reaction his letter has got ? he’s somehow managed to make things worse for himself even after all flack that letter to him got
 
Neiler said:
Thats my analaysis to.

One of the things i would also query is its governance structure, strategy and communication - who was it that made the decision to bring up health grounds, was it a person, was it a group. a hierarchy - who is that, how was it decided, who decides the strategic approach, who funds sit - for a group that wants communication and transparency in decision making - there is little coming the other way.

The premise isnt binary and thats the peice people are confused about - its like Brexit politics black and white thinking, its possible to want change at the club and not be supportive of the approach of altogether now - the two things can exist together - thats the piece people are lost in or are afraid to query because they will be accused of being one or the other and not questioning is never healthy - nothing is ever absolute or binary - what if there could be a better protest movement!?!
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It doesn't have a governance structure as far as I'm aware. There are no chair or committee. Rightly they dismissed the Fans Forum as a cat's paw for the board...but offered no structure themselves...unlike groups in the past like EitC and Blue Union. The strategy just seems to be to launch a guerrilla campaign on social media and share it with a loose confederation of similar groups. No debate no rigour, no nothing.

The only thing that matters to me is Everton's top flight status. That's paramount. I dont think that's the case for that movement's hierarchy.
 

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