BLOWING THE GOLDEN BOOT

[willo30]

Read today's Echo, where would we be without Lukaku's goals?

Same league position!!!

Funny those articles as it calculates the season with us playing with 10 men all the time.

 

[GwladysBlue]

The thing I like about Kane is that he doesn't go running his mouth every time there is an international break.

He doesn't have his Dad saying where his son should be playing.

Finally, he actually shows Spurs a bit of respect.

 

[msb]

The thing I like about Kane is that he doesn't go running his mouth every time there is an international break.

He doesn't have his Dad saying where his son should be playing.

Finally, he actually shows Spurs a bit of respect.

He would soon enough if Spurs were not pushing for honours and in CL.

 

[jinkyali]

This forum is utterly surreal at times.

If Lukaku had Kane's scoring record, people would be slating him for being a flat-track bully (4 goals against Leicester - comparable to Rom's 4 against Bournemouth?) or padding his total out with penalties. Yet Kane does exactly that and gets praised because he runs around more. His record against the top six this year is 1 goal against Utd, 1 against Chelsea and 2 against Arsenal... Rom has 3 against the top six combined, despite not having a supply line as strong as Kane does.

Lukaku saved us from being dragged into relegation trouble for two seasons on the bounce and has scored the bulk of the goals to get us back into the EL. Obviously "running around more" isn't everything.

You miss the point.
Rom has many of the attributes to do more but seemingly isn't able to. It's no slant on him, it's just the way it is.

When has he ever ran a defence ragged on a consistent basis ? When has he ever held the ball up on a consistent basis? When does he bully defenders and contribute outside the box on a consistent basis?
He is adept at finishing chances but to be an elite player he needs to do more.

 

[bluestevon]

..I always say when after a new manager you should scrutinise his record in the transfer market. RK and SW are paid lots of money, they need to earn it in this window if we are to continue moving in the right direction. Time will tell.

Here's hoping

 

[GwladysPhil]

You miss the point.
Rom has many of the attributes to do more but seemingly isn't able to. It's no slant on him, it's just the way it is.

When has he ever ran a defence ragged on a consistent basis ? When has he ever held the ball up on a consistent basis? When does he bully defenders and contribute outside the box on a consistent basis?
He is adept at finishing chances but to be an elite player he needs to do more.

MATE he's out first 20+ goal scorer he's immune to any criticism!

 

[The Rhino]

He would soon enough if Spurs were not pushing for honours and in CL.

Exactly alot of people forget that, if Spurs were 7th he would likely be more non committal and if we were in 2nd playing CL football I doubt Rom would be mouthing off as much.

 

[Tree13]

Read today's Echo, where would we be without Lukaku's goals?

Same league position!!!

Really? Have you a link for that, I'd like to read it.

 

[Bungle]

Really? Have you a link for that, I'd like to read it.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...ews/would-everton-without-lukaku-you-13057410

Where would Everton be without Romelu Lukaku?

It’s a moot point given the striker’s stand-out season in front of goal and his reluctance to commit to a new long-term contract.

And the answer is perhaps surprising.

Without the 24 Premier League goals Lukaku has plundered this season - and not a single one from the penalty spot - the Blues would have finished .... seventh.

Exactly the same position they are going to finish with him leading their line this season in such swashbuckling fashion.

Everton would have forfeited nine points without Lukaku’s goals - and they are currently a whopping 15 points clear of eighth placed Southampton.

The 3-0 waltz at Sunderland would have finished goalless without his hat-trick, the points gained at Crystal Palace and Manchester City would have gone begging without his goals - and with his remarkable four-goal haul against Bournemouth rubbed out Everton would have lost 3-2!

The only other fixture influenced decisively by his goals would have been the 4-2 win over Leicester, in which he scored twice.

But this shouldn’t be a reason to cash in on the centre-forward’s signature, even if a potential suitor is ready to pay Everton’s £100m asking price.

The gulf between the best and the rest this season has been vast, while Everton have significantly boasted 17 different goalscorers this season - one of the top flight’s widest spread. Including own goals as a separate marksman, that’s 18 different scorers, while Arouna Kone and Aaron Lennon also found the target in the brief dalliance Everton enjoyed with the EFL Cup.

The Sunday Times’ Jonathan Norcroft put in some impressively hard yards recently to compare the Premier League’s leading scorers’ records against the top six with the rest.

He concluded that almost every striker had a ‘drop-off’ against the top six.

Lukaku was no different to any others.

Jonathan added: “Indeed, looking at numbers for all scorers, it’s evident that Lukaku’s different record in the biggest games is normal. The freaks are Sadio Mane who, echoing Liverpool themselves, fares better against top than lowly foes, and Sergio Aguero, whose record against all opponents is astonishing.”

Lukaku’s 24 league goals are all the more impressive considering he doesn’t take penalties — and he has six assists this season, more than Dele Alli and Eden Hazard.

Perhaps most significantly of all, Lukaku is 24 and still improving.

It’s a debate Evertonians have had before.

Let’s call it ‘the Gary Lineker’ argument.

Lineker had ended the 1985/86 season as the Premier League’s top scorer, the PFA and Football Writers’ Player of the Year - and top scorer at the World Cup in Mexico.

But when Howard Kendall agreed to sell him to Barcelona - with the player happy to stay - it was perceived as a master stroke.

Kendall believed that despite scoring 40 goals in his first season at Goodison, Everton had become too dependent upon Lineker’s pace – and as a result more predictable.

And when Everton won the League the following season with the goals more widely spread, his decision appeared to be borne out.

Title rivals Tottenham relied heavily on a solitary goalscorer, Clive Allen. He hammered 33 league goals that season – but their team total was still four fewer than Everton’s 72.

But the flaw in that arguing was that without a reliable scorer in the post-Kendall era, Everton suffered.

Gary Lineker returned to England in 1989 and plundered 67 goals in 105 league games for Tottenham Hotspur, 80 in 138 in total.

They were totals Tony Cottee, Mike Newell and Mo Johnston couldn’t get near.
Where would Everton have been WITH those goals in the three seasons from 1989/90 to 1992?

Significantly higher than sixth, ninth and 12th I’d warrant.

You can’t afford to offload a reliable goalscorer.

Which is why Everton will do all they can to keep their leading scorer?

Where would Everton be without Romelu Lukaku?

Probably worse off than with him.

 

[Tree13]

7th, because instead of Ali Eriksen and Son to support him we have Barkley when he can be arsed, 3 defensive midfielders and Valencia.

the better question would be where would we be with Ali Eriksen and Son level of support for Lukaku in the team?

Fingers crossed Moshiri and Walsh are doing the work right now to help us all find out. Presumably the type of early signings they make are the ones that they hope might factor into influencing Lukaku's decision to stay or leave. And either way, they are signings we need to make.

 

[Tree13]

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...ews/would-everton-without-lukaku-you-13057410

Blimey. Thanks for that, an interesting read. Just goes to show how far we've come under Koeman I suppose. Even without Rom's goals we'd still have come seventh, albeit with nine less points.

Where would we have been at the end of the previous two seasons without Rom though?

I found the last part of the article interesting:

You can’t afford to offload a reliable goalscorer.

Which is why Everton will do all they can to keep their leading scorer?

Where would Everton be without Romelu Lukaku?

Probably worse off than with him.

Take away a top-class goalscorer and you weaken any team. Add one in and you strengthen any team. How the rest of the team performs matters equally in each scenario, IMHO.

 

[gorgeousgeorgeEFC]

The thing I like about Kane is that he doesn't go running his mouth every time there is an international break.

He doesn't have his Dad saying where his son should be playing.

Finally, he actually shows Spurs a bit of respect.

Harry Kane is on £120,000 a week and playing for the best team in the country, Chelsea aside.

Why would he want to move?

 

[Tree13]

Kane is an absolute beast. The best forward in the Premier League by a distance and easily the in top 10 in Europe at the minute after the usual suspects of Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Ledanowski, Abeymang.

That's a bold claim, worthy of its own thread. Kane v Ibrahimovic v Aguero?

 

[tommye]

Nice to see so many. cough, 'evertonians' taking pleasure from an Everton player being overtaken in the goalscoring charts. Such a refreshing outlook which makes me question my own support and if I've been doing it wrong for 40+ years.

Crack on 'blues'....

 

[peteblue]

Well Kane's two in front now, so we are going to have to batter Arsenal......I'm thinking 6-0 with 5 goals from Rom, that should do it......