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If AJ didnt keep losing would he have lost to Fury too?

I dont see him, AJ, beating Usyk. I dont think he's got the tools.

Mate come off it, keeps losing? He’s lost twice. A bit of a freak one against Ruiz (Lewis v Rahman springs to mind) and a legitimately great fighter in Usyk.

I’m looking forward to seeing AJ v Usyk 2. Think with this time away we really will see what AJ is about. If he loses again I agree with what you said earlier he becomes and also ran.
 
Mate come off it, keeps losing? He’s lost twice. A bit of a freak one against Ruiz (Lewis v Rahman springs to mind) and a legitimately great fighter in Usyk.

I’m looking forward to seeing AJ v Usyk 2. Think with this time away we really will see what AJ is about. If he loses again I agree with what you said earlier he becomes and also ran.
Ruiz wasn’t a freak one at all and it was nothing like Lewis V Rahman which was a one shot job. Ruiz out battled him and out fought him both where down multiple times, Ruiz was the better fighter that night no doubt about it.

Usyk schooled him on every level, embarrassed him.
 
Mate come off it, keeps losing? He’s lost twice. A bit of a freak one against Ruiz (Lewis v Rahman springs to mind) and a legitimately great fighter in Usyk.

I’m looking forward to seeing AJ v Usyk 2. Think with this time away we really will see what AJ is about. If he loses again I agree with what you said earlier he becomes and also ran.
The Ruiz one was as comprehensive as it possibly gets really. He got beat convincingly.
Wouldn't be at all surprised if we never see Deontay Wilder set foot in a ring again.

Possibly not but there is money to be made for him still. Even a Ruiz fight would probably do ok in the states.
 

The Ruiz one was as comprehensive as it possibly gets really. He got beat convincingly.


Possibly not but there is money to be made for him still. Even a Ruiz fight would probably do ok in the states.
Wilder and Ruiz won’t fight each other, Wilder has checked out of the sport and Ruiz hasn’t got the motivation to fight really.
 
Ruiz wasn’t a freak one at all and it was nothing like Lewis V Rahman which was a one shot job. Ruiz out battled him and out fought him both where down multiple times, Ruiz was the better fighter that night no doubt about it.

Usyk schooled him on every level, embarrassed him.

To be fair Joshua was in full control til he got caught. He just never recovered.
 
It’s a very dangerous fight for Fury, think that swings it in Fury’s favour is his engine. Joshua pushes him very close but still think Fury wins.
Any fight at the top level as a heavyweight is dangerous, one shot can end it even for a so called non puncher. Joshua however offers very little to trouble Fury, he backs up in straight lines, goes static when he gets hit, does not like movement, dosent seem to be able to adapt or change when the fight isn’t going his way and dosent seem like he has the heart that others have in a dogfight. He’s nowhere near the natural fighter Fury is.

The only thing Joshua seemed to have was his power, which isn’t what it was because he Dosent like to trade as much anymore, Fury on the other hand seems to have developed into abit on a wrecking machine since adapting the kronk style, sitting on his punches a lot more.

I honest cannot see a way AJ wins barring a punch from the gods, I gave Whyte more of a chance because he’s unorthodox and is willing to engage.
 
To be fair Joshua was in full control til he got caught. He just never recovered.
Full control?

What round did Ruiz drop him in, can’t remember of the top of my head but wasn’t it the 4th or 5th? That’s very early doors. If it was a shout of of the blue in the 11th I would let you off, but it wasn’t.
 

Not disagreeing with you but your argument isn’t very good when Fury has only beat two world champions in his career. His biggest career wins are Klitschko, Wilder, Chisora and now Whyte. Not exactly a great career when you look at it from that perspective.

Joshua was hype up, way to much. We all know that, Joshua was fighting Whyte for the British title, not a world title. When Joshua knocked out Whyte, Whyte didn’t beat the count, he didn’t move. Same fans that are fury fans now, we’re all on Joshua’s nuts. Same people that are booing joshua now we’re the same ones booing Fury and calling him every name under the sun from his antics earlier on in his career. Like it or hate, Joshua’s beat more world champions than fury and fought better opposition. That’s why Fury needs that fight to cement his legacy as the best of his generation.
You cant put Joshua's win over Klitschko in the same league as Furys though. Might be the same man but Fury dethroned him in his backyard, in his prime. Joshua struggled past him when he was after a last payday. Furys win was much more impressive.
 
Not disagreeing with you but your argument isn’t very good when Fury has only beat two world champions in his career. His biggest career wins are Klitschko, Wilder, Chisora and now Whyte. Not exactly a great career when you look at it from that perspective.

Joshua was hype up, way to much. We all know that, Joshua was fighting Whyte for the British title, not a world title. When Joshua knocked out Whyte, Whyte didn’t beat the count, he didn’t move. Same fans that are fury fans now, we’re all on Joshua’s nuts. Same people that are booing joshua now we’re the same ones booing Fury and calling him every name under the sun from his antics earlier on in his career. Like it or hate, Joshua’s beat more world champions than fury and fought better opposition. That’s why Fury needs that fight to cement his legacy as the best of his generation.
It’s hard to beat multiple word champions when one man held the majority of them for years. Fury beat THE world champion, Joshua never has. He fought for vacant belts that Fury left behind. What legitimate reigning world champion did AJ beat, Charles Martin, Parker? Get real.
 
Full control?

What round did Ruiz drop him in, can’t remember of the top of my head but wasn’t it the 4th or 5th? That’s very early doors. If it was a shout of of the blue in the 11th I would let you off, but it wasn’t.
The 3rd wasn’t it? Joshua was out boxing him, then dropped him, went in for the kill, got clipped to the head and never recovered.
 
You cant put Joshua's win over Klitschko in the same league as Furys though. Might be the same man but Fury dethroned him in his backyard, in his prime. Joshua struggled past him when he was after a last payday. Furys win was much more impressive.

Not saying it wasn’t but Fury did a great job against Klitschko, Joshua’s fight was more thrilling and exciting. On the score card, wasn’t Joshua winning on all the cards?
 

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