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British Super League
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wandyr79
Player Valuation: £25m
I am sorry but you are talking 100% bollocks there, why not have the sponsors & organisers pick 2 teams that they like and have the final they want.
Who gives a crap what the sponsors and organisers think. We are not organisers or sponsors, we are fans and all we want is the game as fair as it possibly can be. By continuing to pander to these clubs, in any form it just widens that gap. So they come in even later, have an even better chance to win it, reduce the chance of lower league clubs having a big payday.
The FA Cup has it right, in terms of the levels, considering the FA Cup starts in August/September it is not feasible that higher up teams come into it at that stage so it is rightly staggered throughout the pyramid and every team will have to play on average 3/4 games to reach a level where they can call it a successful tournament with relative good financial rewards.
The League cup as well is staggered, maybe all Prem clubs should come into it at the same time but again they still have enough games to earn the win. It also gives the lower level clubs a better chance of getting a good payday, that could keep them afloat another few years.
OneTrueLegend
Player Valuation: £35m
That's exactly what I thought you meant.
I just find it incredulous that you think they should be given 'byes' in the early rounds of domestic cup competitions.
Please tell me I'm wrong.
Premier league teams already enter the FA Cup at the 3rd round and for the league cup the premier league teams in Europe enter at the 3rd round, the Premier league teams not in Europe enter at the 2nd round. So what I said is already happening, I'm just talking about extending it.
Back in the olden days all the top teams started in the first round, but this has changed over the years and I dont see too many protests from fans that it is unfair when the top sides go on to win the competition.
The fact is we are going to have 4 more European games and I would rather we dont see a reduction in the size of the league to accommodate these extra games, but I accept that there has to be a reduction somewhere. The domestic cups are often not taken seriously until January by the teams in europe already, which often devalues the cups. With these added european games that will get worse and we may see teams pull out of the league cup altogether and maybe even the FA cup.
OneTrueLegend
Player Valuation: £35m
How is what I have said "bollocks".
At the moment the Champions League and Europa League normally have a break from mid December to mid February (9th December to 16th February this year). We have a packed league schedule in that time, this season we played 12 league fixtures in this period of time. In January we get the 3rd and 4th round of the FA cup and the semi finals of the league cup. February we get the fifth round of the FA Cup. But from 2024 onwards we also need to fit in 4 more European games for 7 teams in the league. Remembering that these dates need to be agreed with 55 European nations, not just set up to suit the premier league. There are many nations across Europe that take a 2 week break at some point in that time.
58 days and 20 games
12 premier league games
3 FA cup games
1 league cup game
4 European games
Thats less than 3 days between each game, thats without factoring in that for TV they will want to move games and in the European schedule they are played on specific days.
I would like to think that Everton will be in Europe, if not next season, then very soon, but I would like them to continue in the domestic cup competitions. As is stands I dont see how that can happen, it is just too many games
You make a good point about it already happening, but two wrongs don't make a right.
The highlighted bit is a huge problem and I believe they should be punished severely when they do field weakened teams.
I would rather see them given the choice of either pledging to compete in domestic cups OR paying a fee to withdraw from them. The money raised should be used to increase the 'prize pot' for competing teams, thus making the domestic cups more attractive.
wandyr79
Player Valuation: £25m
You have not considered reducing Internationals, at all?
Also, you are using a shortened season as an example of why we need to take away a vital source of income for some lower league clubs, why? All because the rich clubs with massive depth in quality get a bit tired as they have to play every 3/4 days on average.
I have seen non league sides play Sat, Tue, Thu, Sat for 4/5 weeks running because they had runs in the cups and/or winter match postponements, this along with having part time jobs, with no moaning or crying about being tired. Believe me, my heart does not go out to these clubs and we should not be pandering to the minority while affecting the majority of clubs.
Any restructuring of the amount of games played by the top clubs, whether that includes Scotland or not, should be looking outside of the domestic leagues, in my humble opinion.
You can't just reduce internationals. They are the core income for most FA's - it's literally the cash that pays for kids coaching etc
Two domestic things that would really help
1) Take all European teams out of the league club, putting fixtures on midweek at the same slots as the CL schedule. Winner getting a European slot, guaranteeing a new (well not qualified last year) team in Europe every year.
2) remove all replays ongoing - not just for covid. if a lower league team is drawn against a PL, they decide on venue. Home or the extra cash from an away
Like whack a mole this isn’t it
No, you get a lot of abuse for writing absolute garbage like this all the time.
wandyr79
Player Valuation: £25m
I have doubts meaningless friendly Internationals bring too much in compared to the outgoings on having them but I get your point.
Yes, those are 2 options but as you hint at, it has to be a way as to not impact the financial aspect for clubs that need this money/opportunities.
gate reciepts are massive to the likes of the welsh FA, Irish, Northern Irish etc and fundemental to grass roots footies.
Agreed re financial impact on clubs, particularly outside the PL, those two ideas take that into account as best possible. Ultimately, less matches, which is needed, means less cash somewhere.
OneTrueLegend
Player Valuation: £35m
I think penalising teams for fielding weakened teams is a bit wrong. It is the managers choice, often a manager is judged on how he performs in the league primarily and everything else is secondary. So if the manager decides to prioritise the league, it should be up to them. Also I don't think any of us want to see players picking up more injuries because the club will be fined if they don't play
If it was Everton in the Champions league and we needed to win 1 game to get in the last 16 of the champions league and 2 days before we were playing in the 3rd round of the FA Cup, I would imagine that the side that turned up to the FA Cup game would be a mixture of experienced fringe players and u23s at best.
How is this British League any different to what I said? Reduce teams and add more competition. Quality over Quantity.
But no one wants a British League...
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