Carlo Ancelotti

[MikeH72]

When was the survey?

4 people have already liked the post in 5 minutes.

 

[COYBL25]

@Keiran wins by a landslide, I can’t think off the top of my head of a single thing he’s called right ever.

It’s just his opinion though.

He`s first on the list when the party invites are being given out.

 

[Arteta10]

It’s not a contradiction to say that only superstar managers manage multiple top clubs and win Premier League titles.

Both Ancelotti and Pellegrini are superstar managers, in my book anyway. If you disagree, fine, but the suggestion is hardly laughable unless you’re a hormonal teenage girl desperate for attention - which we seem to have a few of on here......

It’s perfectly reasonable, by my reckoning, to say that Pellegrini managing the likes of Villareal, Malaga and West Ham - is going to win far less than Ancelotti managing the clubs he has - because those clubs have vastly different expectations.

Well yeah but if he is such a superstar manager he would have:

A. Won more trophies when he was at city and Madrid

B. Managed more ‘superstar’ clubs and therefore been challenging for more trophies

 

[Deleted member 38674]

4 people have already liked the post in 5 minutes.

Were they liking it in agreement? In humour? Was it simply by accident? Doesn’t seem like you’ve thought this through.

Still, 4 people seems like a reasonable test sample size.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Buffon was 18 years old.

Crespo was 21 years old.

Cannavaro was 23 years old.

None of these players were established stars, he developed all of them into world class players. He also signed Thuram and Chiesa who went on to become key players and some of the best in Europe.

The point is Parma at the time where one of the biggest clubs in the world. And Italian clubs were already operating a DOF model, so the manager gets limited credit for signings.

He did OK at Parma, but Scala did much better.

 

[Brisan123]

Choices. Luck. A multitude of reasons.

Benitez is a superstar manager but has spent the last few years of his career managing Newcastle and in China. Go figure.

Different managers have different motivations. Ancelotti might have a better agent. Who knows?

Clubs choose managers for all sorts of reasons, look at Arsenal choosing Arteta over Ancelotti now, it doesn’t mean Arteta is the better manager - but Arsenal clearly feel he’s the better fit.

Arsenal are a top club with some of the best Football people around and they have made their decision, they have their reasons for that.

Mr Emery says hello
Not [Poor language removed] Emery ,the other one

 

[carlos21]

The point is Parma at the time where one of the biggest clubs in the world. And Italian clubs were already operating a DOF model, so the manager gets limited credit for signings.

He did OK at Parma, but Scala did much better.

Big dunc in charge for Saturday afternoon.

 

[Paulie]

We need to follow up with a signing to make heads turn now. This is the biggest thing for me about Ancelotti, he'll be able to attract some players.

 

[nikom court]

Journalists and fans dont like things being shaken up like this.

We are Everton, not some two bit provincial club. Sod them.

man city had the same problem when they sacked hughes and brought in mancini,
same press and journos worried about the status quo!

 

[MikeH72]

Choices. Luck. A multitude of reasons.

Benitez is a superstar manager but has spent the last few years of his career managing Newcastle and in China. Go figure.

Different managers have different motivations. Ancelotti might have a better agent. Who knows?

Clubs choose managers for all sorts of reasons, look at Arsenal choosing Arteta over Ancelotti now, it doesn’t mean Arteta is the better manager - but Arsenal clearly feel he’s the better fit.

Arsenal are a top club with some of the best Football people around and they have made their decision, they have their reasons for that.

Hahahahaha yerrrssssss. His only proper trophy was a result of Steven Gerrard landing on his arse against Chelsea.

Luck though eh.

 

[COYBL25]

Are we still doing Pellegrini Vs Ancelotti in here?

Last time I checked, Manuel was going nowhere

You missed out Chat magazines favourite manager, Eddie Howe.

 

[DaChunk]

Is this the closest we've come to solid confirmation Usmanov is pulling the strings?

 

[Deleted member 38674]

Well yeah but if he is such a superstar manager he would have:

A. Won more trophies when he was at city and Madrid

B. Managed more ‘superstar’ clubs and therefore been challenging for more trophies

Do we apply that logic to Ancelotti who won only one title in 8 years at Milan?

Look this isn’t an argument over Pellegrini or Howe are better managers than Ancelotti, literally nobody, as far as i’m aware, has said that.

It’s simply an argument about “best fit”. Horses for courses.

 

[Brisan123]

@Zatara ,why are you unsure.
Google Dilbar and look for the big boat ,not the crap music

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Ancelotti and his CV are lightyears ahead of Pellegrini. Anyone disagreeing is on a mad one.

True to a degree. But Pelligrini’s rise is more impressive. He came from a much lower base.