TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
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4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Its only been a week and some of you have forgot how bad we were, i dont want him to go but if he does its not all doom and gloom, its not like he got us into Europe and bailed
Baggzio
Player Valuation: £15m
Quite frankly this squad would be comfortably sat in the bottom half of the bottom half with the like of Eddie Howe or Graham Potter who would be the like to replace Carlo.
I won’t blame a manager for an awful squad he inherited where the 4 players he added were 4 of the 5 best players we had in the year. It’s been said to death but this squad is one of the worst in the league. I look at the like of Southampton who are also awful and think I’d honestly say they’ve multiple players that’d start for us, same for Burnley, Brighton etc.
I’m not sure there’s multiple players from our squad that’d start in teams above us, Digne is the only one and he wouldn’t even get in all of them. Quite honestly in fact I think we have players who start for us regularly that wouldn’t get in teams below us. The likes of Iwobi, Davies, Gyfli, Holgate, Keane, Gomes and as much as I hate to say it Coleman would legitimately struggle for game time at the likes of Villa or Wolves. Many would do well to get into that Southampton side, Palace or Newcastle.
We truly do have an awful squad.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
No shot on the bold bit.
I don't think the squad is good, but that doesn't excuse the manager to do a mediocre job too.
Noble Savage
Player Valuation: £20m
I really don't want him to go but unless he gets the level of players he has been accustomed to work with , he's wasted .
He can't get any of our below average players to put in a shift as he rarely has had to work with players who lack both quality and passion.
If he doesn't get some assurances that he will get the tools needed , I won't hold it against him if he wants to bail.
It must be so mentally taxing walking into training to see Iwobi crossing the ball into the next county and Gomes pruning himself like a gorgeous crab.
Come on Brands and Mosh , give the man the tools he needs .
He can't get any of our below average players to put in a shift as he rarely has had to work with players who lack both quality and passion.
If he doesn't get some assurances that he will get the tools needed , I won't hold it against him if he wants to bail.
It must be so mentally taxing walking into training to see Iwobi crossing the ball into the next county and Gomes pruning himself like a gorgeous crab.
Come on Brands and Mosh , give the man the tools he needs .
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
I can assure you we won't get the tools needed if Milan cerca 2007, Chelsea 2010 or Real Madrid 2014 is what the level is.
Noble Savage
Player Valuation: £20m
I get your point but at the moment I think the level of players we have (apart from a very few exceptions ) are more like Milan reserves 5 years ago , Chelsea in the late 80s and Real Madrid Castilla now.
and? I’m talking now
ha ha ha ha ha AS if
Daytripper
Player Valuation: £40m
“Bill , get Eddie Howe in lad. Tell Mosh !!”
Baggzio
Player Valuation: £15m
On the first part do you mean that you disagree with me on that? James, Godfrey, Allan, Doucoure and obviously Dom were our 5 best players last year by some margin. Digne was the closest but he had a poor season compared to what he can do in my opinion.
I’m not exactly excusing the manager, he should’ve of course done better but I’ve said it before that I can’t blame a manager for players not turning up against the likes of Sheffield United and Fulham, honestly with the “quality” of our squad you should win that game without even needing a tactical plan, only way we lose that is if we’re massively tactically outplayed, which we weren’t, or else the players couldn’t be arsed, which they weren’t.
That’s my opinion and if you disagree with it that’s fine but there’s legitimately 20 people I’d see leave the club before Carlo, certainly not untouchable or without criticism but he can only do so much with what he had.
People will point to 10th and use it as a stick to beat him but he got 59 points, 4 points off Europe and 9 points off Champions League all with this gang of cowards who threw away games throughout the year. Off the top of my head I can’t lay a whole pile of results on the fault of the manager, I can remember multiple to put on individual errors of players though.
Put it this way, beat Sheffield at home, Burnley at home and Fulham at home and we’d be in the Champions League next year. As disgusting as that is to read quite frankly I can’t put any blame on a manager for losing that set of results but those are the margins in football and those margins aren’t won or lost by managers, it’s players.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
Doucoure is terrible and I'm not sure Godfrey is better than Mina or Keane so yes I disagree.
He should probably work on getting them up for those games and winning them then. I just don't really look at it that way with the if we did this stuff. We didn't and he has to own that.
Martin Alvito
Player Valuation: £50m
Playing the same 12-13 guys you just threw at a
top side away to get the three points is a recipe for eventual bad L's.
Carlo didn't have a lot of choice in quite a few of those. It's a thin squad when healthy. Options are nonexistent when it's a M*A*S*H unit.
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £100m
I guess. I just think we're hiding behind the squad quality because we really want it to work for Carlo. He's not been good enough either but we want to believe new players would change that.
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