Champions League revamp

[number4.]

Not to mention that CL places could then go to the teams who finish 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th.

Yeah - there is a lot of boards in the 14, who are publicly outraged, will be quietly optimistic about how this pans out.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Don't really feel that would happen as you would have heard it by now, stock changes, rumours etc. And none of them are overly committed to live sports at this moment in time.

There is no way JP Morgan would provide finance without it.

 

[Encoder]

I'm still fuming about Carragher and his 'what about when you tried to void the season?' shout against Parish before.

He's an absolute flute of the highest order (not exactly controversial, but I wanted to say it anyway)

 

[Martin Alvito]

That's the one.

They'd be playing reserve teams in the Prem, youth teams in the cups, because the league position ultimately means diddly squat. They could afford to finish 12th in the Prem because the difference between there and 4th is relative peanuts to what they'd be making guaranteed every season in the Super League.

If that's the case, you may as well kick them out. Liverpool already left, and is trying to have their cake and eat it too by playing Liverpool B in the Prem while hanging on to Liverpool A's share of the prize money.

So you lose the eyeballs either way.

 

[ste d' indica]

Tomorrow's echo:

 

[catcherintherye]

Are you coming up with that number by including the facility and merit fees? I'm not clear on precisely how that split allocates to the broadcast contracts.

Just the value size of each deal. From memory it was around 5bn to 3.5bn

 

[Drico]

I don't mean the club I mean you personally!

I don't like dismissing other clubs and putting them into pigeon holes. Palace, Burnley etc are not there just to exist, they just cut their cloth accordingly.

I'm not dismissing them at all. I am saying that their owners have no genuine ambitions of making top-level European football. They don't have the money to compete! Not their fault at all. All are tremendous clubs, but their ambitions are different to what we think our owners are aspiring to. So I don't see a single unified approach as likely.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Fair question - what if the 6 say "we're playing Superleague whether you like it or not, you decide if you want us in the PL"

Every fibre of us wants to see the PL chuck them out, but when it comes down it, Parrish certainly implied there is not chance that they will

THey will turn up every week and play a second string of players cos the bigger money is in winning the ESL. They also will not need to qualify for anything. It is totally un-tenable.

 

[number4.]

so a salary cap will be in place. 55% of the turnover on wages.

Man city have just gone to war with UEFA over FFP and now wnat to be part of a league that will be restricted by it?

indeed - how many years have you heard them banging on about the "establishment clubs" wanting to pull up the bridge behind them

Hypocrisy in its purest form

 

[bluenorthwarrior]

Do people not get that these clubs owners (of the scab) don’t give a [Poor language removed].

they want to get kicked out. They want the kick off. As they are going to sail off into the sunset anyway. They want the revenues from elsewhere and a blank slate to negotiate what they want. If they don’t get it now, they’ll just keep coming beck at this.

We need to sack them off entirely and look at completely reforming the game. Anything else is just Stockholm syndrome.
they are taking the p*ss out of everyone and they know they can because everyone is terrified what will happen without them.
do people just like inferiority or something?
Tell bullies to get f*cked. There’s no alternative.

Completely agree, if this is real this time (which it certainly appears to be) then the current statements about staying in the league are cynical tactics to force them being kicked out rather than walking away.

That way they can say 'we offered you all solidarity payments but you kicked us out so we will keep that pot for ourselves'.

It stinks and is a ploy, they know they cannot stay in the PL and go ahead with a SL but this makes them seem less the bad guys when they keep every penny.

 

[Wat Tyler]

 

[number4.]

THey will turn up every week and play a second string of players cos the bigger money is in winning the ESL. They also will not need to qualify for anything. It is totally un-tenable.

I'd agree - but I think you will get away with one round of TV deals before that kicks in, which is all a Parrish or Brady will consider

 

[catcherintherye]

That's the one.

They'd be playing reserve teams in the Prem, youth teams in the cups, because the league position ultimately means diddly squat. They could afford to finish 12th in the Prem because the difference between there and 4th is relative peanuts to what they'd be making guaranteed every season in the Super League.

Yes and trying to cream off the PL money. Even their billions of mythical fans aren't going to be bothered watching, so you won't even get that advantage. Might as well sack them off.

 

[Goat]

I'm not dismissing them at all. I am saying that their owners have no genuine ambitions of making top-level European football. They don't have the money to compete! Not their fault at all. All are tremendous clubs, but their ambitions are different to what we think our owners are aspiring to. So I don't see a single unified approach as likely.

I mean Burnley played in the Europa League a few years back mate.

So I wouldn't say they don't have genuine ambition.

And also got new owners 4 months ago.

 

[tsubaki]