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Champions League revamp

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I truly have zero idea whether ESL will work out or not, but with anything in society, there's always immense resistance to change. Football is nothing new.

Whilst the current "closed-shop" plan is ludicrous, I can see the "founding fathers" being open to a more accessible system which allows for multiple leagues to exist and having a promotion/relegation system down the line. Now either in 5 years down the line, this could be something that fails miserably and ruins football, or it could very well be something that revolutionizes football. We just have to wait and find out, only God knows the true answer. But the society has never been kind to change and the ESL is just another case of this.
Hmmm, back in 1888 the "Founding Fathers" of football: Accrington, Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Bolton Wanderers, Burnley, Derby County, Everton, Notts County, Preston North End, Stoke, West Bromwich Albion, and Wolverhampton Wanderers created the game as we know and love and it does have multiple leagues. 133 years later it is still going strong, a couple of entitled "Baby Clubs" aside who have been mismanaged to the point they face financial oblivion. It is not just god that knows about this, no, the other big guy Father Christmas is always watching too and we can be sure that his naughty list got a page or so longer yesterday.
 
It doesn’t matter if the motivation is to win votes if they are able to deliver what we want here.

yes, but there’s very little chance they’ll do that

I mean their response to this was to talk about a “root and branch” review of football, which a lot of people read as an attack on the six and a call for genuine positive reform.

The problem with that analysis is that it’s not football to blame for this, it’s business rules which allow firms to be bought via leveraging them and allows directors to act in ways that directly harm their own firms interests in order to make money for themselves. What the six are doing is what firms do; what we’ve seen them do repeatedly.

To ignore that and instead start looking at the FA, the other 86 league teams, the women’s game and so on seems bizarre. You could almost say that the government is doing what the six are arguing, that football is broken and someone needs to fix it.
 
Yep. Always a threat of a breakaway league of some description and then they come back to the table and get increased power. Will probably happen again.
I think this time there will be a regulator established to curtail those threats.

Their action is leading to action in Parliament. It could even lead to fans committees with actual power. I don’t think they reckoned on the response.

The government can’t let this happen. Too much damage if they leave it and loads of political capital if they prevent it.
 

Deloitte 2021 Football Money League rankings: The world's top 20 richest football clubs​

RankingTeamTotal revenue
1Barcelona€715.1m
2Real Madrid€714.9m
3Bayern Munich€634.1m
4Manchester United€580.4m
5Liverpool€558.6m
6Manchester City€549.2m
7Paris Saint-Germain€540.6m
8Chelsea€469.7m
9Tottenham€445.7m
10Juventus€397.9m
11Arsenal€388m
12Borussia Dortmund€365.7m
13Atletico Madrid€331.8m
14Inter€291.5m
15Zenit Saint-Petersburg€236.5m
16Schalke€222.8m
17Everton€212m
18Lyon€180.7m
19Napoli€176.3m
20Eintracht Frankfurt€174m

AC Milan :o


While I think the whole concept of a super league is totally abhorrent, to penalise one specific team and not the entire group isn’t justifiable.

Theres a £175mil loan that has been given to one club.

If it had been provided to ALL of those 6 clubs then I would agree. Call them all in.

But it hasnt.

Id call in the loan immediately.

It may seem unfair as you say, but take the £175mil from Spurs and let their billionaire owner pay for his 'SUPER CLUB' out of his own pocket.


Speaking to a colleague yesterday who is an administrator for the spirit of Shankly, he says that there are conversations talking about them starting AFC Liverpool. He even suggested that it could be the case that as we are moving that they might be able to play at Goodison! I had to point out that it was because we had allowed a similar situation when we left Anfield that we are all in this predicament now, so no thanks! :red:

Disagree.

If Liverpool fans want to set up AFC Liverpool then i suggest we let them use our stadium and facilities.

More than happy for the club to show it is,

THE PEOPLES CLUB.
 

....the more I see the reaction to this: the more I hear the debate & see the detail, the more I don’t see this happening.

There might be fortunes at play, but I can see players not wanting to be part of it. It could end up like the Chinese Super League with older, star names looking for one final pay day.
Agreed

wont happen imo
 

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