Champions League revamp

[Martin Alvito]

But I don’t see that as a professional public relations strategy. Yes it might be a pig of an idea but at least you try to put lipstick on it.

Agree with Rory Smith (~5mins in) on this podcast

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There is a way to present this that at the least means that the fans of the clubs involved have some material to argue for the Super League, instead there was no initial no counter argument for those fans to latch onto so you leave them influenced by their own thoughts, Sky (who obviously have their own reasons for not liking it) or none SL fans who won’t be in favor.

Add to this you leave your own managers facing the music when they had no part in the decision and very clearly thrown under a media bus and it is an utter mess of a rollout.

Give them talking points and your opponents, who are legion, will call them shills for repeating them. The truth is that they're doing this because they've collectively flushed billions of pounds in the transfer market competing with one another, and the gravy train that permitted them to get away with that quit rolling. So they've colluded to get what they consider to be their fair share of the media pie, and to price fix fees and wages at the top end with no one to stop them.

Leaving the managers facing the music was stupid. This needs to roll out on Tuesday, not Monday. If I were Klopp, I'd be out at the end of the season. I'd be seething.

While I think the whole concept of a super league is totally abhorrent, to penalise one specific team and not the entire group isn’t justifiable.

The whole point of making moves like that is to gain some control over behavior, and have the ability to signal displeasure.

It is hardly punishment. Given the war chest that was raised, it would only seriously inconvenience Levy. It's a token gesture that only serves to show that they're annoyed.

Which, in turn, is why they haven't done it. The move is petty, beneath the office and serves no purpose other than to expose the government's impotence.

 

[TheBigIguana]

GTFOH, you have been following football less time than I've sat on the crapper, you're an American, you're views are invalid.

I think we're on the same side here mate, but sure, just get angry right away

 

[Jim Hopper]

I hope they're kicked out, I don't know about everyone else but I don't want these clubs in the league anymore, a line has been crossed for me.

This is what the other 14 clubs need to ask themselves today at this meeting, are they happy to just sit back and constantly allow these other 6 clubs to feel entitled and completely disrespect and disregard every other club in the whole footballing pyramid in English football so they can all jump into bed with each other and all have an equal share of money?

 

[Terrarian]

I think we're on the same side here mate, but sure, just get angry right away

haha sorry pal, just woke up and my head is still in a pickle over this, I shouldn't have said that

 

[DanB90]

It says it all when the bad guy from every movie in the 90’s turns out to be the good guy.

 

[Moomin]

I hope they're kicked out, I don't know about everyone else but I don't want these clubs in the league anymore, a line has been crossed for me.

They won't be kicked out.

If anything the Premier League and UEFA will be behind the scenes trying to make them happy.

It's a power grab, and it will probably work.

 

[Terrarian]

They won't be kicked out.

If anything the Premier League and UEFA will be behind the scenes trying to make them happy.

It's a power grab, and it will probably work.

I'm unsure. Someone will come out looking weak, it is a crap show. I don't know how they can be allowed to stay after this, they've had 86 other teams in this country right off.

 

[Dutch Toffee]

I hope they're kicked out, I don't know about everyone else but I don't want these clubs in the league anymore, a line has been crossed for me.

I guess the vast majority think the same, but sadly can't see it happening. The financial impact of blowing up the PL is just too big for the remaining clubs.

Would be superb if they just went ahead with it though, and voted them out, no matter the consequences.

 

[Jim Hopper]

They won't be kicked out.

If anything the Premier League and UEFA will be behind the scenes trying to make them happy.

It's a power grab, and it will probably work.

I think if this happens I may be done with the sport. As if these clubs don’t already have dominion over football, giving them more control and more money would be sickening. To have them throw their toys out of the pram, tell them to suck it up and then start pandering to them and give them what they wanted all along would be horrible.

 

[Martin Alvito]

This is what the other 14 clubs need to ask themselves today at this meeting, are they happy to just sit back and constantly allow these other 6 clubs to feel entitled and completely disrespect and disregard every other club in the whole footballing pyramid in English football so they can all jump into bed with each other and all have an equal share of money?

Precisely. You can never work with these men. They don't see you as an equal partner at the forefront of the stewards of the game. They see you as taking what is rightfully theirs. They've stabbed you in the back once. Let them return to the table, and they'll do it again.

So it has to be war, and that war has to be total.
No quarter. No mercy.

 

[Terrarian]

Proper shaken me this, I thought I didn't care as much about football anymore but this has absolutely done me, I just don't know what the hell is happening. (not literally)

 

[BNJ1878]

The only steps UEFA need to take with the revamp are:

• Scrap Coefficients
• Scrap seeded group draws
• Scrap rewarding failure in the groups with fall back into Europa
• Ban the 12 for AT LEAST 3 years

That was fix a lot of unsporting aspect of the competition.

 

[boris]

Surely city and Chelsea, least to gain and this seems to be driven by the yank parasites

Chelsea are being led in to this by Bruce Buck their Chairman, another yank.

This type of deal is right up his street.

 

[jazzy]

They won't be kicked out.

If anything the Premier League and UEFA will be behind the scenes trying to make them happy.

It's a power grab, and it will probably work.

Sadly , you're probably spot on.
The EPL will bend over backwards to accomodate and apease them and the scum 6 will just suck the life out of the English game.
Stand up to them.
Accept the short term pain .
Kick them out .
Rebuild.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Supporters Trusts of these clubs should already be starting to form their 'Phoenix' clubs. Your football club as you know it and loved is dead.

Speaking to a colleague yesterday who is an administrator for the spirit of Shankly, he says that there are conversations talking about them starting AFC Liverpool. He even suggested that it could be the case that as we are moving that they might be able to play at Goodison! I had to point out that it was because we had allowed a similar situation when we left Anfield that we are all in this predicament now, so no thanks!