Champions League revamp

[ste d' indica]

Starting to think Spurs being invited is a ploy to lessen votes from the 3/4

Wow, just think on that. Imagine the ESL meetings:

"Just put on your gimp suit Levy and stand in the corner. No-one gives a toss what you think"

Built in whipping boys.

 

[Jim Hopper]

The EPL. Need those clubs, but not their attitude.

In a dream world the 6 clubs would be told they’re not the be all and end all of English football and it doesn’t revolve around them, they weren’t even here from the start, football existed without them and will continue to exist when they’re gone.

I couldn’t care less if this all leads to a drop in TV revenue money. If it helps English football long term and brings an end to these ego inflated clubs and their narcissistic owners from trying to hold dominion on all of football than let it be.

 

[atrottel]

They wouldn’t need academies. All those extra funds would just make them buy everyone.

Not sure that would work if signing for a Super League club meant an automatic life ban from any other football.

 

[allen]

Interesting passage from the Premier League Web site:

Any serious breach of the Rule Book results in an independent three-person tribunal sitting to hear the case, ascertain guilt and set the punishment, which can range from fines to points deductions and, in extreme cases, expulsion from the competition (this has never happened in the history of the Premier League).

I guess we’ll find out how ‘serious’ all of this is soon enough.

 

[Nymzee]

Love your optimism, but there’s really no chance Everton gets to qualify for super league.

We don’t want to be in a Super League.

 

[alphabet]

The rather sad thing that you don't see is that this will be the end of Liverpool, United, Arsenal, Chelsea, City, and Spurs. Sure, the brand names will continue but the core, the heart, and nature of these clubs will be gone.

I am not sure if you fall into the Legacy Fan bracket, but these traditional community-based fans will be lost in this strategy and all of the marketing and effort put into developing new Future Fans. You might not realise it at first but soon the reality will dawn on you that you simply do not matter to the corporate machine that you used to love - this will happen. When it does you might give up on football altogether or you might realise that the game you knew did continue and that really, AFC Liverpool, though only playing Marine and the like is where your heart is. This is your future.

Seeing how I dislike all the teams you mentioned, hope it happens sooner, rather than later. The community based fans already got nothing to do with those teams, or have any relevance. Those clubs are global brands, and they don't really care about Mick from the docks for over a decade now. The game that you're refering to does not exist for a long time now. Corporations are already here, you already don't matter at all. And it has nothing to do with future, it's going on for some time now.

 

[Zatara]

Even Corden is talking sense..

He spoke quite well there.

Pity he didnt name the owners.

Lol at a Tory government being anti capitalist.

Its beyond that.

I think they may see this as an opportunity to gain alot of votes by destroying this plan.

Pulling in the Spurs loan should be the first step.

....the more I see the reaction to this: the more I hear the debate & see the detail, the more I don’t see this happening.

There might be fortunes at play, but I can see players & fans not wanting to be part of it. It could end up like the Chinese Super League with older, star names looking for one final pay day.

Its looking to me like the same as those summer tournaments they all play in US and Asia...ones weve been in as well.

Love your optimism, but there’s really no chance Everton gets to qualify for super league.

Yet were literally next on the list of clubs in both the Premier League and Europe to be asked.

If you look at the metrics.

What team are you a customer of btw?

And that's fine, there would be loads of money in clubs of superstars who are past their best. Across the world, if a team rocked up containing Messi, Ronaldo, de Bruyne etc who were all past their best, it will still take in so much money. People still want to say "I saw them play". Like when we had etoo. We all knew he was well past his best, but at the time, I was buzzing to be able to watch him, just for the glimpses he showed.

But it wouldn't be at financially beneficial as having them at their best, so that's not what they want.

They would be banking on locals in India / Indonesia / Thailand / US / China etc all coughing up for stadium tickets and watching on pay per view.

Im not sure how it would be much better for the US market than backing LA Galaxy or Inter Miami in the US though...they could sign 3 old players a window lol

This won’t happen, it will fall on its arse and all 12 clubs will end up looking really really bad. But the six pl teams can’t just come back to these PL meetings unpunished, it has been an attempted coup, only a few months ago they tried to make their six votes more important than anyone elses. Bad bad snides these owners you know, if they had a chance they’d get rid of relegation

They need to hit them in the pockets.

Spurs / Call in the £175mil loan immediately.

Arsenal + Liverpool + Chelsea + City + Spurs + United have to be instantly relegated.

Also a 5 year European ban or something along those lines.

Let there be a new top 6.

Ironic seeing as we are only a couple of good results away from qualifying for the CL, yet you see no issue with the SL and the fact we will never be allowed in?!?!

See my reply to them above. Were literally next on the list to be asked.

I think @alphabet seems to be a non-european customer of the RS.

Doesnt seem to have a clue.

 

[alphabet]

We don’t want to be in a Super League.

Like we didn't care 'bout our best interests and never broke off and founded the prem right? And basically made super league possible by catering to TV rights since 90s, opening up to fishy arab&russian money just for the sake of profits.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Seeing how I dislike all the teams you mentioned, hope it happens sooner, rather than later. The community based fans already got nothing to do with those teams, or have any relevance. Those clubs are global brands, and they don't really care about Mick from the docks for over a decade now. The game that you're refering to does not exist for a long time now. Corporations are already here, you already don't matter at all. And it has nothing to do with future, it's going on for some time now.

Why are you so happy to see this SL and let Everton rot in the second tier? Especially weird seeing as we are on the brink of challenging for CL qualification over the next few season

 

[Ste2018]

Why is it 15? I thought it was a 2/3 majority?

Sure I read it needs a 3/4 majority

 

[Zatara]

15 votes needed to expel these teams from the Premier League.
Makes sense now why Spurs got added.

Legally binding contracts for Super League and not voted out of Premier League means that the punishment is no more Champions League for these teams, a tournament they have resigned from anyway.

Why is it 15? I thought it was a 2/3 majority?

I thought it was 2/3 as well...

@Ste2018 are you sure on the 15/20 ?

Interesting passage from the Premier League Web site:



I guess we’ll find out how ‘serious’ all of this is soon enough.

Thats fabulous.

Neville better be on that 3 person tribunal.

 

[The Gueye Science]

The issue for young people is the cost.

I bet they won’t address that.

Good heavens no.

They want to transform football from something built organically by local supporters for the cost of a movie ticket every week into something customers around the world fly thousands of miles and pay thousands of Pounds to experience once a year if not once in a lifetime. They want to turn it into a trip to Disneyland. To a large extent they already have.

It's easy to see why they thought they'd get away with it, because we've already rolled over and let them do this to our schools, hospitals, universities, police forces and prisons, immigration system, roads, railways and airports etc. The Super League is to football what Serco, Capita, G4S, McKinnsey and Deloitte are to public services and state capacity.

 

[alphabet]

Why are you so happy to see this SL and let Everton rot in the second tier? Especially weird seeing as we are on the brink of challenging for CL qualification over the next few season

I'm not happy per se, but if SL happens, I'll watch the games there sooner than I'd watch CL. Can't remember when's the last time I got excited about CL if it wasn't a SF game.

And we'll still be challenging, maybe even qualify for CL. It's not going anywhere. I'd hardly call that 'Everton rotting'.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Good heavens no.

They want to transform football from something built organically by local supporters for the cost of a movie ticket every week into something customers around the world fly thousands of miles and pay thousands of Pounds to experience once a year if not once in a lifetime. They want to turn it into a trip to Disneyland. To a large extent they already have.

It's easy to see why they thought they'd get away with it, because we've already rolled over and let them do this to our schools, hospitals, universities, police forces and prisons, immigration system, roads, railways and airports etc. The Super League is to football what Serco, Capita, G4S, McKinnsey and Deloitte are to public services and state capacity.

Excellent post

 

[Nymzee]

“I’m sorry I cheated on you baby but it turns out I can’t stay with her so will you take me back?”