Champions League revamp

[BlueToff]

The threat was "quit now or be punished"

they quit - other than preventative measures to stop it happening again, that is the end of it id say

There should be no way that's the end of it and the other 14 clubs will be demanding it isn't.

There's a balancing act. I'm not suggesting relegation. But UEFA should follow through with a one-year ban (I'm not hopeful mind) and the PL should enforce sanctions such as transfer bans and point deductions, just like a club going into liquidation.

They've brought the game into disripute. They've tried to create a close-off tournament and used a pandemic as an excuse (and actually stated that as the reason). It's disgraceful.

 

[BornBlue76]

Anyway. Night folks.. what a brilliant couple days
Only gutted Liverpool and Utd jumped ship so soon.. wanted to see them dangle in the wind left behind by the others.. join some Euro non event after being booted and disappear into the night .. ah well... back to the Ale House

 

[Efcjake]

Guardian saying they backed out because the FA threatened a ban

 

[sbbefc]

As someone who worked on legal matters for 3-4 years in the Government department I worked in, let me take you through what the PL/UEFA's legal team would hone in on.

'...a club shall not enter its senior men’s first team in any competition...'
1. The clubs publicly announced their entry into a new competition. Statements were made, and published.
2. The new 'European Super league' (the Competition) issued a press statement to the effect of the formation of the new league, and its initial constituent members.
3. Notwithstanding the 'no promotion or relegation' scenario, it is a competition based on two opposing teams competing on a field of play.
4. In terms of semantics, the ordinary legal construction placed upon the word 'shall' is directive, not optional. 'Shall not' is therefore directive.
The above four points prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that the European Super League' was a competition with 12 founding members and its complement to be increased by invitation to other teams.

You don't have to kick a ball, or have any fixtures or dates put into a calendar for something to be classed as a competition. The youth teams that I ran had to apply to the local Sunday League youth association (affiliated to the County FA) for admission each season. You were then accepted ever before fixtures or dates were set in a calendar (obviously - you cannot put the proverbial cart before the horse!). So your claim is demolished in one simple point.

I hope the foregoing clarifies things for you.

What a bizarre and angry tone to that comment. As someone who works on legal matters in local government, they won't and are very unlikely to succeed in successfully taking legal action. As much as you and I would like them to.

Which is what they did! During the 2020-2021 season. It hasn't ended yet!

They haven't entered a team in any competition yet. Not this season. The law is worded to allow out of season tournaments like the audi Cup or whatever. They haven't revealed fixtures or any details.

 

[Blue83]

They're not even going to be suffering any financial issues from breaking contract with the ESL because they were the ESL, they're not going to sue themselves over a contract being broken

The fact they're going to get away with it is more damaging than the ESL itself

 

[number4.]

There should be no way that's the end of it and the other 14 clubs will be demanding it isn't.

There's a balancing act. I'm not suggesting relegation. But UEFA should follow through with a one-year ban (I'm not hopeful mind) and the PL should enforce sanctions such as transfer bans and point deductions, just like a club going into liquidation.

They've brought the game into disripute. They've tried to create a close-off tournament and used a pandemic as an excuse (and actually stated that as the reason). It's disgraceful.

100% agree - they have brought game into disrepute and should get pelters

But I think the PL and CL appetite to have these teams back and competiting to maximise ratings and money is will superseed the right decision for PL and UEFA

 

[DanEFC92]

Wee article on their club website and everything is dandy again.

Nah.

Punishments. Now.

 

[Efcjake]

100% agree - they have brought game into disrepute and should get pelters

But I think the PL and CL appetite to have these teams back and competiting to maximise ratings and money is will superseed the right decision for PL and UEFA

Go to bed

 

[BlueStevie35]

Absolutely sickening and insulting them statements, only Arsenal had conscience enough to actually state an apology to their fans

I really, really hope we use this as motivation and hammer them on Friday night

 

[JimmyLaddon]

What a tumultuous 48 hours.

We can't have this mentality that these self proclaimed super six will go unpunished as then it will come to pass.

40 points is the what is said to guarantee safety in the prem. If they are the elite of europe they should have no trouble achieving double this so dock them all 40 points. Implement a transfer ban for two years and let them achieve what they can on their own merit.

 

[riddick]

There should be no way that's the end of it and the other 14 clubs will be demanding it isn't.

There's a balancing act. I'm not suggesting relegation. But UEFA should follow through with a one-year ban (I'm not hopeful mind) and the PL should enforce sanctions such as transfer bans and point deductions, just like a club going into liquidation.

They've brought the game into disripute. They've tried to create a close-off tournament and used a pandemic as an excuse (and actually stated that as the reason). It's disgraceful.

Should be at least a 3 year ban honestly. Pretty sure a big points deduction would still leave City in Europe. Probably everyone else out but still, make this hurt. They tried to fundamentally break football.

 

[BlueToff]

100% agree - they have brought game into disrepute and should get pelters

But I think the PL and CL appetite to have these teams back and competiting to maximise ratings and money is will superseed the right decision for PL and UEFA

We'll see, I don't disagree with your point because I wouldn't be surprised but, in this instance, the apetite is definitely there for these clubs to get punished in some way.

 

[DaChunk]

Ffs man everything about the project using the term "suspended" rather than cancelled and people are acting like clubs are heros

 

[kev]

Note the wording:
“Liverpool Football Club can confirm that our involvement in proposed plans to form a European Super League has been discontinued.”

they say proposed plans.. so technically they are saying not official thereby not breaking any rules right? Pretty deliberate wording I’m sure.

Definitely deliberately worded.
Man City 's statement was similarly deliberately worded - "withdrawn from the group developing plans for the formation of ESL"
I think the wording of their statements on joining is what needs scrutinising.

 

[BlueToff]

Should be at least a 3 year ban honestly. Pretty sure a big points deduction would still leave City in Europe. Probably everyone else out but still, make this hurt. They tried to fundamentally break football.

Just thinking of something that can realistically be implemented for these clubs. Like, let's be fair here, a massive part of the draw of teams trying to get into the CL is to play these sides.

So a one-year ban, probably about does it. It damages them financially, and point deductions (for me I'd do it from the start of next season but we'll see what happens) would damage their efforts to then get back into Europe for the following season.

Transfer ban of two windows.

Fines mean f all to them, but demand it's £millions into grassroots football.