Champions League revamp

DaChunk · April 21, 2021

I'm as worried as most sane people that they'll go unpunished. However part of me believes that something will have to be done to appease angry owners like Farhad

BlueToff · April 21, 2021

FA's threats worked. They really did call their bluff.

Now it's time to punish them.

Old Blue 2 · April 21, 2021

Martin Alvito said:
The key wording is "enter or play".

Perez and the attorneys have been very careful on this one. They will argue that they did neither. They signed a letter of intent for a competition that was never established. Obviously, they never played. They will argue that they did not enter.

Against that is popular sentiment, which good research does show that US courts, at least, do take into account. I would guess that they think they can stall the case long enough for the outrage to blow over, so that they can get their narrow, pedantic decision over wording if it comes to that.

All of that does not preclude the 14 clubs from kicking them out on general principles, citing 9(L) if desired or hanging it on damage to English football and their brands, rewriting the rules to suit their liking, and only permitting them to rejoin on their terms.

Your first paragraph: see my post #9.551.

Saint Domingo · April 21, 2021

Wat Tyler said:
And they can never brag about “six times la”, cos it was a competition they tried to destroy.

They’ve sold their souls. That’s one thing you can never get back. They don’t have any credibility whatsoever now in the game. Barcelona was ‘more than a club’, Liverpool ‘you’ll never walk alone’, Real Madrid European royalty, Juventus the old lady of Europe. All gone. They’re corporate shells who were willing to throw all that away from a bit of cash. MKDons have got more football heritage than any of this lot now.

BornBlue76 · April 21, 2021

Note the wording:
“Liverpool Football Club can confirm that our involvement in proposed plans to form a European Super League has been discontinued.”

they say proposed plans.. so technically they are saying not official thereby not breaking any rules right? Pretty deliberate wording I’m sure.

ToffeeTim · April 21, 2021

Those comments from Daniel Levy are something else. He has serious delusions of grandeur and some nerve

number4. · April 21, 2021

BlueToff said:
FA's threats worked. They really did call their bluff.

Now it's time to punish them.

The threat was "quit now or be punished"

they quit - other than preventative measures to stop it happening again, that is the end of it id say

canuckblue · April 21, 2021

sbbefc said:
Rule 9. Except with the prior written approval of the board, during the season a club shall not enter or play its senior men’s first team in any competition other than

L.9.1 – The UEFA Champions League
L.9.2 – The UEFA Europa League
L.9.3 – The FA Cup
L.9.4 – The FA Community Shield
L.9.5 – The Football League Cup or
L.9.6 – Competitions sanctioned by the County Association of which it is a member

Think you would struggle to punish someone for breaking this before a ball has been kicked or any fixtures or dates put into the calendar. Would get messy legally. I don't think the PL will pursue it. They should but they won't.

But signing letters of intent to join the Super League could be read as bringing the Premier League into disrepute as they'd have to field weaker sides in PL games, thereby diluting the product and harming other stakeholders (especially if the TV revenues dropped). I would imagine all PL teams have a fiduciary responsibility to their colleagues and joining a new league would violate that.

efcfanwirral · April 21, 2021

Too much rejoicing across media that the league is going back to a barely competitive one instead of a completely non competitive one. I think everything will just continue as normal now until they either do it again or get their TV rights demands.

apart from now some of them are guaranteed CL based on their history. So they've still won...

number4. · April 21, 2021

that was a wild day - i'm calling it a night. All the best

Saint Domingo · April 21, 2021

number4. said:
The threat was "quit now or be punished"

they quit - other than preventative measures to stop it happening again, that is the end of it id say

You’ll have to hope you’re right or your beloved red men might be in a spot of bother

Wizard · April 21, 2021

Nymzee said:
Yeh that’s why I picked Spurs. They have 1-2 star players, a stadium that cripples them and they’re not even guaranteed Europe after Kane leaves. They’ll be screwed.

They still have their naming rights to sell. Admittedly they will have to lower their price but they should still get a decent whack for that.

BlueToff · April 21, 2021

BornBlue76 said:
Note the wording:
“Liverpool Football Club can confirm that our involvement in proposed plans to form a European Super League has been discontinued.”

they say proposed plans.. so technically they are saying not official thereby not breaking any rules right? Pretty deliberate wording I’m sure.

Of course it is, it's arse covering.

But it's on the 14 other clubs now and the PL to act.

Unfortunately, this whole thing has also proved that the 'big six' are needed. However, it has also proved that they don't have the power they thought they had. Not yet at least.

Something has to be done, now. And then, from here, you push on for proper reform with either fan ownership (but as much as that gets bandied about, it's all fan-owned in Germany yet Bayern still dominate), or, as Neville bangs on about, independent regulation.

Now, no sane owner is going to sign up for that willingly, so it probably needs to be implemented as legislation by the government. That's how you safeguard against another attempt of this magnitude.

Old Blue 2 · April 21, 2021

BornBlue76 said:
Note the wording:
“Liverpool Football Club can confirm that our involvement in proposed plans to form a European Super League has been discontinued.”

they say proposed plans.. so technically they are saying not official thereby not breaking any rules right? Pretty deliberate wording I’m sure.

No word 'proposed' in the official statement: