Championship positives

[Blue peter]

In 1962/63 as champions, Everton had the highest average league attendance in the country, the last time we achieved this.

I appreciate that, and even Man City had the highest attendance ever recorded for a top flight game until Spurs broke the record at Wembley a few years ago….I think Munich was ‘58, up until then we were probably as big as Utd, but once that happened - and with the resurgence of the Team to become European champions around 10 years later, we were in their shadow in terms of size.

Even Liverpool, had a decent league title hall….I think its a bit of a myth they were much smaller than us in the 60s….in terms of their footballing prowess I saw a stat the other day saying that that they had not finished outside the top 8 of the top flight since the 60s.

We undoubtedly were a massive club (and have the potential to be again) but I think like all things absence makes the mind remember things not quite as accurate as they were and we become romantic in our view of history.

 

[Ferguson1878]

In your lifetime Everton have never been bigger then United, thats an embarrassing thing to say, you tried to get out of it by saying you go back to the 60s, in the 60s they won the league twice, won the FA cup, won the European Cup, had the "holy trinity" of Charlton, Law and Best, Matt Busby, home crowds to match ours at least, Everton were not bigger.
If you are saying we then declined and they overtook us, when exactly did this happen?

Bigger then Chelsea, City and Spurs yes, and yes Liverpool in the early 60s too

a lot of utds popularity was them being media darlings especially after munich, trophy wise and crowd wise there wasn’t much to separate us and them i think we’d won more leagues than them up until about 94 , i always remeber the media clamour for them to win the league in the 90s cos they’d gone so long without winning same the thing happend with liverpool a couple of years ago it was nauseating

 

[glory_daze]

I appreciate that, and even Man City had the highest attendance ever recorded for a top flight game until Spurs broke the record at Wembley a few years ago….I think Munich was ‘58, up until then we were probably as big as Utd, but once that happened - and with the resurgence of the Team to become European champions around 10 years later, we were in their shadow in terms of size.

Even Liverpool, had a decent league title hall….I think its a bit of a myth they were much smaller than us in the 60s….in terms of their footballing prowess I saw a stat the other day saying that that they had not finished outside the top 8 of the top flight since the 60s.

We undoubtedly were a massive club (and have the potential to be again) but I think like all things absence makes the mind remember things not quite as accurate as they were and we become romantic in our view of history.

Fair enough, but United also got relegated in the mid 70s, we haven't been since 1951.

 

[Blue peter]

a lot of utds popularity was them being media darlings especially after munich, trophy wise and crowd wise there wasn’t much to separate us and them i think we’d won more leagues than them up until about 94 , i always remeber the media clamour for them to win the league in the 90s cos they’d gone so long without winning same the thing happend with liverpool a couple of years ago it was nauseating

We had, I work in Manchester and I always attempt to wind them up by saying that without Ferguson, we still hold more titles than them…they’d still be on seven. To be honest, it’s a sh1t windup and they tend to look at me more with sympathy than anything

 

[Ferguson1878]

I appreciate that, and even Man City had the highest attendance ever recorded for a top flight game until Spurs broke the record at Wembley a few years ago….I think Munich was ‘58, up until then we were probably as big as Utd, but once that happened - and with the resurgence of the Team to become European champions around 10 years later, we were in their shadow in terms of size.

Even Liverpool, had a decent league title hall….I think its a bit of a myth they were much smaller than us in the 60s….in terms of their footballing prowess I saw a stat the other day saying that that they had not finished outside the top 8 of the top flight since the 60s.

We undoubtedly were a massive club (and have the potential to be again) but I think like all things absence makes the mind remember things not quite as accurate as they were and we become romantic in our view of history.

duno whether it’s cos of how bad the last few years have been but it’s irritates me how much everton the club, bang on about the 80s team

 

[Blue peter]

duno whether it’s cos of how bad the last few years have been but it’s irritates me how much everton the club, bang on about the 80s team

Yeah unfortunately it’s the currency that any disenfranchised fan base uses,…talk of yesteryear and how great it was (and it was) …it suggests there is no real hope for the present - it’s what we’ve been reduced to….even other fans now see us an irrelevance.

I know it’s bit of a strange example, but in 84, Watford had had a decent season, and we were under performing but the talk heading into the FA Cup Final was that if Watford won it would be a giant killing. Elton John was just happy to be there etc. if that same fixture happened now Watford and their fans would fancy their chances….it wouldn’t be seen as a giant killing - no one sees us a relevant club anymore and the real pity is, this is shared with our own fan base.

 

[T LEAFE]

Cambridgeshire, about 75 miles North of London.

Just checked
Nightmare train journey
4 3/4 hours and changes
Maybe Bolton would be easier with hindsight

 

[Ferguson1878]

Yeah unfortunately it’s the currency that any disenfranchised fan base uses,…talk of yesteryear and how great it was (and it was) …it suggests there is no real hope for the present - it’s what we’ve been reduced to….even other fans now see us an irrelevance.

I know it’s bit of a strange example, but in 84, Watford had had a decent season, and we were under performing but the talk heading into the FA Cup Final was that if Watford won it would be a giant killing. Elton John was just happy to be there etc. if that same fixture happened now Watford and their fans would fancy their chances….it wouldn’t be seen as a giant killing - no one sees us a relevant club anymore and the real pity is, this is shared with our own fan base.

that’s it now although i’m not arsed what other fans pundits etc think of us i do get the feeling this time round that everyone is just sick of us and want us to go down

 

[KMC]

Being in the Championship -
After years of over-paying for under-performing players - a team with this history and a spanking new stadium on the way...
We can start under-paying for over-performing players because they will want to be a part of something special.
Return to the Premier League. New stadium. The history. The Supporters.

 

[Billy Dean]

that’s it now although i’m not arsed what other fans pundits etc think of us i do get the feeling this time round that everyone is just sick of us and want us to go down

I don’t think it’s an agenda. Neutrals just find it funny when a big club goes down, it’s always the way.

 

[Billy Dean]

Positives of being in the championship for me would only be that the departure of the board and owner would be accelerated, and our games would no longer be commentated by Spitty

 

[Blue peter]

that’s it now although i’m not arsed what other fans pundits etc think of us i do get the feeling this time round that everyone is just sick of us and want us to go down

I can see why to be honest….they probably think what’s the point of us? We do nothing…other than the last couple of years battling relegation we just stay inside a no man’s land….we haven’t won anything and haven’t been relegated….we just make up the numbers

 

[Mashtray]

Actually instilling a new philosophy would be great. Championship seems open to the bigger teams that drop in expanding their brand of football.

And I'm pretty much resigned to relegation

 

[Rob17896]

So with relegation looking likely I was thinking of a few positive things and here’s what I came up with

NO matches against the RS
NO VAR
Everton might win a game
More Everton(could be a negative)
Hopefully a complete rebuild but unlikely with the board
Any more?

Administration
Points deduction
Years in wilderness
New stadium sold to RS
Being within 100 yards of people from Stoke
All good!

 

[alan ball]

A day out at Wembley for the the play off final