Computer games.

[Terrarian]

Been playing some Pathfinder: Kingmaker. A single player strategy/classic CRPG that has a blend of faction-level strategy and party-based RPG adventuring that can be played in either real-time or tactical turn-based mode.
I usually play games at high difficulty but in this anything above normal makes the game stupid where you and the enemy will go about 5 minutes without landing a hit on each other. On normal though its pretty fun and a rare hybrid of genres. Recommend if you like games like Divinity, but it is quite different.

Outriders is the most divisive game of 2021 so far

The opinion seems split on whether Outriders is a fantastic loot shooter or a terrible one.

www.pcgamer.com

People seem to either love it or hate it. I've been itching for a co-op looter shooter since Division 2 so I'm interested but £50 too much to gamble on. I wouldn't go for it at half that. I'll maybe try it in a year or two if it works out its issues and the price drops significantly.

From the link above it seems like it has a bigger story focus (though not great writing) than comparable games and the endgame stuff is apparently very good.

I actually have that in my wishlist on steam so good to hear it's fun thanks, might look into it when I can.

 

[Dylan]

Fair. I just don't see the point in buying a 1080p card to play on 1440p. The other red flag for me on that build is the PSU being only 550w - they're notoriously hard to remove and replace.

Get your point though. I just really think that if you're going to invest £1,000+ on a rig, you may as well do it right rather than sacrifice something here or there, particularly when it comes to CPU and GPU.

What? A PSU replacement is really quite easy. The red flag for me is going with a cheap PSU. Go with one of the name brand 80+ Gold or Platinum PSU's. Smoother power delivery to the VRM's means a more stable system. Plus less likely to blow and kill your CPU/GPU/Mobo........

 

[Dylan]

At a glance this seems decent. I’d add a 500gb m2 for the OS and frequently used games. Also would up it to 16gb RAM.

https://www.ginger6.com/g6-fusion-600-x4-amd-gaming-pc.html

Some recommendations as that pre-built is a bit crap as configured.

I would go for the Ryzen 5 3600 over the 3500 (hyperthreading is enabled on the 3600 - quite important if you are going to go down the route of streaming which seems all the rage.....)
16GB 3200Mhz RAM (Ryzen loves fast RAM and the 2400Mhz RAM as configured doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a new build.......if you were upgrading an existing PC.....i understand)
a 500GB M.2 NVME SSD (use for OS and your favorite games)
Go for a B450 motherboard over the A320. No future CPU upgrade path with the A320 (or even better, go with the B550 so you get full PCI-E 4.0 compatability so you can upgrade later to the next gen NVME storage, or the higher end RTX 3000 and beyond cards won't get hampered by the PCI-E 3.0 standard)
Upgrade from the 1TB HDD to at least a 2TB. Games are big these days......
And finally, for 100 GBP, get the RTX 3070!

It takes the total to 1400 GBP, but it means you will be set for a long time, and when you do want to upgrade, with the B450 you can go to Ryzen 5000 or with the B550 you can go to whatever comes next.......

Like others have said.......if you are spending the money, may as well do it right!

 

[Baines' left foot]

Maybe another stick of memory, if your gaming, windows eats a lot on it's own, i like too have a bit extra and maybe some extra storage a 1tb is nothing these days the size of games, just get a HDD or SSHD, other than that decent enough., well good actually. Dell can be quite hard to get replacements parts for, or it used to be, alienware is by Dell as well, the prices you are willing to spend alienware might be in your range.

I figured I’d focus mostly on the CPU and GPU to begin with. It’s primarily for one game so 16gb will get me started, as will the 1tb storage. The main thing is that the storage is M.2 and the memory is 3000mhz. Both can be easily upgraded and not too expensive.

I’ve been mainly looking at Scan and Ginger6. Warranty/customer service is important to me and TrustedReviews have those two very well rated. Dell rates pretty poorly in comparison which has put me off a little.

I’m trying to keep the cost to around £1200 as I need to set aside about £400 for monitor, mouse and keyboard.

 

[Terrarian]

I figured I’d focus mostly on the CPU and GPU to begin with. It’s primarily for one game so 16gb will get me started, as will the 1tb storage. The main thing is that the storage is M.2 and the memory is 3000mhz. Both can be easily upgraded and not too expensive.

I’ve been mainly looking at Scan and Ginger6. Warranty/customer service is important to me and TrustedReviews have those two very well rated. Dell rates pretty poorly in comparison which has put me off a little.

I’m trying to keep the cost to around £1200 as I need to set aside about £400 for monitor, mouse and keyboard.

Well for what you want it for, is it DayZ, I think that is a very good buy and can handle new games no problem so go for it. You can add the bits I suggested if you need too no problem anyway.

 

[Baines' left foot]

Some recommendations as that pre-built is a bit crap as configured.

I would go for the Ryzen 5 3600 over the 3500 (hyperthreading is enabled on the 3600 - quite important if you are going to go down the route of streaming which seems all the rage.....)
16GB 3200Mhz RAM (Ryzen loves fast RAM and the 2400Mhz RAM as configured doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a new build.......if you were upgrading an existing PC.....i understand)
a 500GB M.2 NVME SSD (use for OS and your favorite games)
Go for a B450 motherboard over the A320. No future CPU upgrade path with the A320 (or even better, go with the B550 so you get full PCI-E 4.0 compatability so you can upgrade later to the next gen NVME storage, or the higher end RTX 3000 and beyond cards won't get hampered by the PCI-E 3.0 standard)
Upgrade from the 1TB HDD to at least a 2TB. Games are big these days......
And finally, for 100 GBP, get the RTX 3070!

It takes the total to 1400 GBP, but it means you will be set for a long time, and when you do want to upgrade, with the B450 you can go to Ryzen 5000 or with the B550 you can go to whatever comes next.......

Like others have said.......if you are spending the money, may as well do it right!

I’ve since seen this one which I think is a bit better value. It’s got 16gb 3000mhz memory and 1tb M.2, which is enough to get me started. Is the 3070 that much better than the 3060ti? I’m trying to keep around the £1200 mark as I need all the peripherals too. This one I linked a few posts up has caught my eye:

 

[Dylan]

I mean, the 10700f is fine, just Intel stagnating on their 14nm process. It won't give you any upgrade path in the future, as Intel are notorious for changing motherboard/cpu socket type (the formfactor of the CPU to plug into the motherboard)....and Intel's latest offerings have been pretty lackluster.

AMD currently gives you the best performance options for the future on the AM4 platform (Ryzen 5000 and probably Ryzen 6000 are AM4).

Though, at the end of the day, its your money and your decision, just trying to highlight the options for the future.

 

[Dylan]

I’ve since seen this one which I think is a bit better value. It’s got 16gb 3000mhz memory and 1tb M.2, which is enough to get me started. Is the 3070 that much better than the 3060ti? I’m trying to keep around the £1200 mark as I need all the peripherals too. This one I linked a few posts up has caught my eye:

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The 'in conclusion' part of the review of the better version of that processor....the 10700k

 

[Goat]

I mean, the 10700f is fine, just Intel stagnating on their 14nm process. It won't give you any upgrade path in the future, as Intel are notorious for changing motherboard/cpu socket type (the formfactor of the CPU to plug into the motherboard)....and Intel's latest offerings have been pretty lackluster.

AMD currently gives you the best performance options for the future on the AM4 platform (Ryzen 5000 and probably Ryzen 6000 are AM4).

Though, at the end of the day, its your money and your decision, just trying to highlight the options for the future.

I dont see @Baines' left foot ever going down the upgrade path.

He strikes me as the me type, if something breaks, buy a new PC type.

 

[McBain]

 

[Dylan]

I dont see @Baines' left foot ever going down the upgrade path.

He strikes me as the me type, if something breaks, buy a new PC type.

You never know man.....this might be the thing that bites him and he becomes a member of PC Master Race for life.......

 

[Goat]

You never know man.....this might be the thing that bites him and he becomes a member of PC Master Race for life.......

Well I know he won't go back to consoles after tasting real power.

 

[BNJ1878]

Harsh but funny.

I must admit, I read the posts on PC spec and understand maybe 20%.

It's a different language altogether.

Those who have the knowledge to dip in and buy components/assemble themselves must save a fortune. (Or as some seem to do here, tick off options on a build list with no fear of compatibility issues)

As I'm here, do the PCs heat up as much as consoles? My PS4 pro fan runs pretty much constantly after about 15 minutes play. I have had the cover off and brushed out dust etc (hardly any) but it has had zero impact. I suspect they just use the bare minimum standard for components and it's not really up to the job.

 

[McBain]

Harsh but funny.

I must admit, I read the posts on PC spec and understand maybe 20%.

It's a different language altogether.

Those who have the knowledge to dip in and buy components/assemble themselves must save a fortune. (Or as some seem to do here, tick off options on a build list with no fear of compatibility issues)

As I'm here, do the PCs heat up as much as consoles? My PS4 pro fan runs pretty much constantly after about 15 minutes play. I have had the cover off and brushed out dust etc (hardly any) but it has had zero impact. I suspect they just use bare minimum components and it's not really up to the job.

My opinion is that if you're playing games on a PC you're not using it right.

 

[Terrarian]

Harsh but funny.

I must admit, I read the posts on PC spec and understand maybe 20%.

It's a different language altogether.

Those who have the knowledge to dip in and buy components/assemble themselves must save a fortune. (Or as some seem to do here, tick off options on a build list with no fear of compatibility issues)

As I'm here, do the PCs heat up as much as consoles? My PS4 pro fan runs pretty much constantly after about 15 minutes play. I have had the cover off and brushed out dust etc (hardly any) but it has had zero impact. I suspect they just use the bare minimum standard for components and it's not really up to the job.

Heat is a big big thing with PCs they juice a lot of power and temperatures get high so that's what you should always make sure you have the right kind of fans installed with proper circulation and water cooling is everywhere now as well. Always keep an eye on temps.