Computer games.

[neil999]

Well I mean is the couch any better for your back? I'm also quietly confident Red Dead 2 looks just as beautiful on a PC than on a TV.

Of course, that's why everyone in offices are assigned their own couch lol

 

[Philw]

The couch. The family hub, the act of gaming that can being a shared, rather than being a solitary, hunched over experience? Hey as I said each to their own, I dont understand the quality argument either. Ive been playing games since the 80’s and Red Dead 2 is easily the most beautifully realised graphics Ive ever seen. Playing through again its actually an incredible achievement.

I think it's fair to say you have no clue when it comes to pc gaming

 

[McBain]

Of course, that's why everyone in offices are assigned their own couch lol

And why would gaming be designed around an office? Computers weren’t invented for games.

 

[McBain]

I think it's fair to say you have no clue when it comes to pc gaming

You’ve got me there lol

 

[Terrarian]

Nino kuni the revenant kingdom has lovely graphics. I even see 8bit and 16bit games looking really polished as well these days. As a gamer though, gameplay has to take precedent over graphics, especially as my PC is a bit naff lol

 

[McBain]

Erm I guess that's quite subjective really. RD2 is up there, I recently played Metro Exodus and the FF7 remake which were beautiful, Ghosts of Tsushima is beautiful, I love the Witcher 3 graphics.

Played all those except FF7. Control, Last of Us 2 also good but RDR2 is hands down as realistic and vast as it gets.

Is it a misconception PC graphics are better than console?

 

[Nymzee]

Played all those except FF7. Control, Last of Us 2 also good but RDR2 is hands down as realistic and vast as it gets.

Is it a misconception PC graphics are better than console?

Well it's just a case of is your TV better than your PC setup. If your TV is trash the game looks it, same for your PC.

 

[McBain]

Well it's just a case of is your TV better than your PC setup. If your TV is trash the game looks it, same for your PC.

My TV is pretty ace but are games the same on both console and PC? Im just trying to work out why people have to turn themselves inside out with silly PC parts when the console does it all for you.

 

[Nymzee]

My TV is pretty ace but are games the same on both console and PC? Im just trying to work out why people have to turn themselves inside out with silly PC parts when the console does it all for you.

The fundamentals of the game are the same. I don't know people that buy a PC just for gaming either. A lot of people stream their gaming these days too which is easier on a gaming PC. Being able to tab out from games to do other things or have seperate monitors set up is just too good to pass up on. My Xbox is basically just a DVD/Netflix player now attached to my TV. Haven't played a game on console in ages.

 

[Terrarian]

Played all those except FF7. Control, Last of Us 2 also good but RDR2 is hands down as realistic and vast as it gets.

Is it a misconception PC graphics are better than console?

Definitely not a misconception...BUT...it does get into the realm of full on geekiness when talking about FPS and Mhz and refresh rates. The best graphics cards and processors are well advanced in PC compared to console and are constantly evolving, consoles hardware stays the same for its shelf life.

 

[Philw]

Is it a misconception PC graphics are better than console?

Yes and no. It really depends on how good your pc is. PCs are certainly capable of having much better graphics than a console, but how much in reality depends on your hardware, how much you invest in it, and whereabouts in its lifespan the console is. Eg whomever was spending £1200 on a pc above. If they did that in a few years I imagine they'd get something far superior to the PS5/XB1 or whatever its called. My £2/300 pc made of 2nd hand parts right now, probably not so much.

The fundamentals of the game are the same. I don't know people that buy a PC just for gaming either. A lot of people stream their gaming these days too which is easier on a gaming PC. Being able to tab out from games to do other things or have seperate monitors set up is just too good to pass up on. My Xbox is basically just a DVD/Netflix player now attached to my TV. Haven't played a game on console in ages.

I have 3 screens, so can have Whatsapp/FB/BBC/GOT etc on one, FM or something on the 2nd, and youtube/film etc on the third, and seamless switch between the three.

 

[Terrarian]

Yes and no. It really depends on how good your pc is. PCs are certainly capable of having much better graphics than a console, but how much in reality depends on your hardware, how much you invest in it, and whereabouts in its lifespan the console is. Eg whomever was spending £1200 on a pc above. If they did that in a few years I imagine they'd get something far superior to the PS5/XB1 or whatever its called. My £2/300 pc made of 2nd hand parts right now, probably not so much.

I have 3 screens, so can have Whatsapp/FB/BBC/GOT etc on one, FM or something on the 2nd, and youtube/film etc on the third, and seamless switch between the three.

yeah my pC isn't at the level of the new gen consoles but like I say, better to buy an affordable potato as all my games are PC.

 

[Baines' left foot]

I mean, the 10700f is fine, just Intel stagnating on their 14nm process. It won't give you any upgrade path in the future, as Intel are notorious for changing motherboard/cpu socket type (the formfactor of the CPU to plug into the motherboard)....and Intel's latest offerings have been pretty lackluster.

AMD currently gives you the best performance options for the future on the AM4 platform (Ryzen 5000 and probably Ryzen 6000 are AM4).

Though, at the end of the day, its your money and your decision, just trying to highlight the options for the future.

That’s good to know. I’m grateful for all the advice here, I know next to nothing but I’m enjoying learning a bit here and there, and slowly understanding it. This is exactly the info I need as I don’t want to give myself compatibility issues later down the line. I’d like to think I could get a good PC and spend £300 ish every 3 years upgrading a part. Maybe it’s more than that but that’s the idea. Most people seem to rate AMD over Intel chips but besides raw speed (which shows many Intel chips as on par) it’s difficult for me to understand why without someone simplifying it. Plus I’d rather spend an extra £100 now if it’ll save me £200-300 later on.

I dont see @Baines' left foot ever going down the upgrade path.

He strikes me as the me type, if something breaks, buy a new PC type.

I thought this, but I used to be a bit of a tech nerd when I was younger and I can feel it coming back a bit. I’d consider building my own PC if the part prices made it viable. With the prices at the moment though it makes no sense.

 

[trueblue84]

I have 3 screens, so can have Whatsapp/FB/BBC/GOT etc on one, FM or something on the 2nd, and youtube/film etc on the third, and seamless switch between the three.

Be honest, is it porn on all 3 screens?

 

[Baines' left foot]

Hunkered over a PC using a mouse and a keyboard to play games is for wronguns IMO. All this weird technical mumbo jumbo talking about grass density - let the boffins put all that in a box and alls you should need to do is turn it on, grab a controller and chill on the lounge.

That's gaming, but each to their own!

Funny you should say that. I recently injured my neck badly and my physio has told me to stop slouching on the couch and use a dining or office chair we keep my neck straight. I can’t do that on a sofa. Screen position matters too, most people look up at their TVs because they mount them too high, with a PC you can set your position and screen height easily without buying new furniture. I think it’ll be good for my posture.

Generally I’ve always agreed with your line of thinking; gaming should be a pick up and play experience that is straight out the box. But the lines between console and PC are slowly blurring. You buy a PS5 for £450 and they give you a 825gb SSD, so you’ll need to upgrade that very quickly, and the compatible storage isn’t even out yet, and expected to be very expensive. Then there’s the constant huge updates and the staggered pricing of consoles (digital, disc and pro in the future).

The modding world in PC has taken gaming to a different level. I finally have a good opportunity to jump on board. I’m too intrigued not to.