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David Moyes

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Utterly bizarre the lack of respect West Ham fans (and their owners tbf) have for the job Moyes has done.

He won a European trophy FOR WEST HAM.

They should be building him a bloody statue.
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I liked him.

I think we should have gone for him over Ancelotti but that’s always 20/20.

As it is we find ourselves with a similarly pragmatic man in Sean Dyche and I think he’s doing a smashing job under adverse circumstances so as much as I liked Moyes, we should stick with Dyche.
 
I never liked him. His football was boring and outdated and his record against the top teams says it all. Having said that, what he achieved on a shoestring shows that he is a good manager, but there’s a time and place when that’s needed. West Ham are nowhere near that place. Everton are but I still wouldn’t have him back.
 
I don't know why Moyes would want to bother with another manager job, especially after he's finally got a trophy and WH treated him like crap. Aside from of course ... money. So, in theory, how about we get Moyes on some kind of coaching/recruitment hybrid job where we pay him manager money to help SD and the club in the background. Everyone seems to hate these roles but we have no compass whatsoever and the best compass we ever had in the modern era was Moyes. Now, of course, in reality, we have no money and are one wrong move from admin. Talking about creative solutions to Everton back room roles seems quaint at this juncture.

As for the ManU stuff -- I don't know. I hate(d) Kenwright. I hate Moshiri. I don't hate Moyes. My instinct is to always blame the person at the top, not their minions (even their highest paid and most visible PR minion). BK and Mosh have ruined this club and taken it to literally the brink. I got no hate left for a minion who did more good than bad when he was with the club.
 
I don't know why Moyes would want to bother with another manager job, especially after he's finally got a trophy and WH treated him like crap. Aside from of course ... money. So, in theory, how about we get Moyes on some kind of coaching/recruitment hybrid job where we pay him manager money to help SD and the club in the background. Everyone seems to hate these roles but we have no compass whatsoever and the best compass we ever had in the modern era was Moyes. Now, of course, in reality, we have no money and are one wrong move from admin. Talking about creative solutions to Everton back room roles seems quaint at this juncture.

As for the ManU stuff -- I don't know. I hate(d) Kenwright. I hate Moshiri. I don't hate Moyes. My instinct is to always blame the person at the top, not their minions (even their highest paid and most visible PR minion). BK and Mosh have ruined this club and taken it to literally the brink. I got no hate left for a minion who did more good than bad when he was with the club.

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We've only flirted with relegation because of deductions this season. And even still it was further away than we've been the past 2 season.

'we would not go 4 months without a win under Moyes' - do you've tonight's lotto numbers too?
I completely agree with you that the points deductions were a factor in our dip in form. I also believe that it is a good smoke screen for the limitations of Dyche when he could not coax a victory out of the team for 4 whole months, were we not a rudderless ship he’d have been dismissed. Under the tenure of Moyes, usually if we suffered a bad defeat or had a terrible performance there would be a correction pretty quickly. I think if he is obtainable, Moyes is a far superior manager to Dyche in my opinion, and we would sail into that new stadium without a hint of relegation
 
I completely agree with you that the points deductions were a factor in our dip in form. I also believe that it is a good smoke screen for the limitations of Dyche when he could not coax a victory out of the team for 4 whole months, were we not a rudderless ship he’d have been dismissed. Under the tenure of Moyes, usually if we suffered a bad defeat or had a terrible performance there would be a correction pretty quickly. I think if he is obtainable, Moyes is a far superior manager to Dyche in my opinion, and we would sail into that new stadium without a hint of relegation
Probably what Ellis Short thought too.
 
I don't see why we would want him back. They say you can never go home again, which he just disproved in his second spell in charge at West Ham, but in general that one does hold.

We are light-years away from cup competition right now. We are selling our best assets every summer to fund the shiny new stadium, then trying to deploy a functional team with what's left.

Much as it pains me to say, that's a job for Dyche, not a job for Moyes. Moyes doesn't need massive resources to function, but he does need to be able to buy his pieces. If our ambition is to stay up until BMD with no squad investment, and our finances say it is, Dyche is a better fit for that problem.
 
We didn't screw Carlo. Real Madrid picked up the phone.
True, but we didn’t give him a reason to stay either. He’d been at top clubs and seen what a shambles we were behind the scenes. The amazing thing is that he lasted as long as he did.
 

In hindsight we should have probably not screwed Carlo over and let him spend whatever he wanted.

Look where penny pinching and selling our best players has got us.
What you are suggesting is exactly the reason we are in the position we are! Spending decent money we did not have on nothing players with no resale value like Allen
 
Think had the poor form continued under Dyche, Moyes would already be in the frame to come back in. But I definitely can't see it now, him and Dyche are pretty similar tactically etc, and Dyche deserves the job atm.

Be interesting to see Moyes's next move, I can see him coming in as a fire fighter type job again in the same way he first came into west ham, can also see him at Scotland or Celtic in the future at some point.
 
True, but we didn’t give him a reason to stay either. He’d been at top clubs and seen what a shambles we were behind the scenes. The amazing thing is that he lasted as long as he did.
Honestly don't think we had any say in the matter. The fact we got no compensation points to the fact it was already in his contract.
 

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