2024/25 David Moyes

[davek]

Another 11 years mate!

Imagine that.

11 more years of 50 yard long diagonal balls to the big lad and knives to gunfights.

 

[Yarrgh]

Aye. I also don't think it's at all possible to go into most games with a defensive-first attitude if you're playing one wing of Pienaar/Baines and the other of Arteta/Coleman. And it's not as if Moyes had his strikers acting as auxiliary defensive midfielders like Dyche does. Sure, he tried his best to stay tight and compact away to the big teams, and more often than not saw us get beat and that's something he must learn from, but in general, and as his league finishes displayed, he had us performing well and in the upper echelons of the division.

Wouldn't we all take 6th place finishes for the next few years while we start to reap the benefits of the new ground and put ourselves back into a healthy position to start spending money again?

I think he needs to find a new Fellaini-type, hopefully around the same age as when we signed him (not Soucek) who has a hell of an engine on him and can be useful in both boxes. With two new signings and a smart summer of transfer activity (no choice for this as half the squad is leaving) he can easily get us finishing top half next season.

I agree with this - will be key to him being able to stretch whatever budget he has.

Could see how you could make a case for Doucoure doing that for the remainder of this season on paper - unfortunately not on the grass unless given a very clear brief and steer by Moyes that somehow produces that out of what glimpses of being decent he has shown intermittently over the last few years.

 

[davek]

Ah I see you did the classic “only read the part of the post you want and ignore the rest” tactic.

Do you think they should have gone from runaway winners of the PL with 89 points to 7th with 65 points?

A 25 point drop in form.

Then he goes on to near relegate Sociedad and then after that does relegate Sunderland.

 

[Yarrgh]

Imagine that.

11 more years of 50 yard long diagonal balls to the big lad and knives to gunfights.

11 more years of 50 yard long diagonal balls - sounds like one Phil Neville floating long pass.

Good times!

 

[davek]

11 more years of 50 yard long diagonal balls - sounds like one Phil Neville floating long pass.

Good times!

He'll probably be back.

 

[The Binman]

Imagine that.

11 more years of 50 yard long diagonal balls to the big lad and knives to gunfights.

As opposed to what we have just had, i dont even call that football at all.

Didnt moyse at least some of the time have us play decent footy.

 

[NathDogg]

It's honestly *astounding* that a significant number of people (particularly in the media) think we're more likely to go down under Moyes than Dyche, given what's been seen in the last 3 months.

Moyes wasn't my first choice for the job, but let's get it right, on his worst day he's twice the manager/coach that Dyche is.

I don’t know how anyone can have watched us this season and think we were mad to get rid of Dyche.

A few Mancs in work were questioning it. “but you drew with city and arsenal”
This doesn’t count for much when you’re getting beat by the Bournemouths and Southamptons without so much as an effort on goal.

I guess that is part of the pro-Dyche sentiment - when the media only watch the Sky 6 - they see plucky Dyche teams doing reasonably well in controlling the opposition. What they don't see is the 26 other games that the fans do.

The pro-dyche media spin is absolutely driving me crackers. What are these ex pros watching when they see his Everton side? He did ok when we had the points deductions, but the football and tactics are eye bleeding so why do they continue to push him as some sort of genius…. It’s doing my nut.

He was in the wilderness after getting hoofed from Burnley, and rightly so because he was garbage and he was hardly ever mentioned and you didn’t even see much of him on tv or even radio.

I don’t really remember him being linked with any other vacant jobs in that time he was out the game (I probably wasn’t looking tbh) and I can’t recall him being linked to us when the Don left, maybe he was after tapastits but I probably laughed it off at the time.

Has he just kept all his old mates very close on the media circuit, so that his myth is continually peddled, while he’s been having his tea with Garry Birtles, Iain Storey-Moore and the ghost of cloughy?

For all his faults, and he does have a few, Moyes and Dyche shouldn’t even be spoken about in the same breath as football managers.

 

[Yarrgh]

He'll probably be back.

I could honestly see him back in the coaching team.

If I was Phil Neville (and I assume he is still loaded after being a player in the modern era) I'd avoid the headache of being involved with Everton like the plague.

 

[Delargeinho]

Fair assessment. Doesn’t have to be everyone’s cup of tea, and yes, there may be better out there (who maybe wouldn’t have the minerals to drag us through a relegation battle) but it’s a case of ‘suck it up and get on with it’ as he’s here now and that won’t change, regardless of how dissatisfied people may feel. For all his issues, Moyes is nowhere near as negative as Dyche, and if Moyes can get more out of this current squad, which I feel he will, then we will still be in the Premier league next season. As for longer term, PsR, naming rights, etc will potentially play a major part so just need to be patient and hopefully be able to enjoy our 1st summer in years!

If I look at the current squad I think Moyes' style suits better than someone like Fonseca general that would play better for the eye than Moyes, but it's a 180 degree turn from Dyche, while Moyes is pragmatic and probably a 45/90 degree turn to the better comparing what we saw in majority of the last 2-3 years.

I might be wrong with Fonseca and he might adapt like a good manager does to play a style that suits the team.

 

[Neiler]

Imagine that.

11 more years of 50 yard long diagonal balls to the big lad and knives to gunfights.

There's a whole generation of Everton fans 23 and under who wont remember round 1 mate - incredible. They wont have known Coleman and Baines storming the flanks, Pienaar and Donovan cutting infront of them. Arteta bossing the tempo and threading balls through the eye of a needle. Super Tim Cahill Yorkshire Terriering the hearts out of PL defenders until they broke, big Mo Fro running up the field with 12 hanging out of him. Super Lee Carsley doing his best Gandalf impression.

These fans are in for a treat, they've known noting but tat! Its there time now for (Dare i say) good times!

 

[davek]

As opposed to what we have just had, i dont even call that football at all.

Didnt moyse at least some of the time have us play decent footy.

I call it survival - which is Moyes' job to now deliver.

I wouldn't expect football, tbh...now or in the future.

 

[davek]

I could honestly see him back in the coaching team.

If I was Phil Neville (and I assume he is still loaded after being a player in the modern era) I'd avoid the headache of being involved with Everton like the plague.

This coaching team is getting bigger by the day.

 

[Blueclouds]

He got a good eye for a player and we need this. We have not brought much in and have a healthy turnover

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Imagine that.

11 more years of 50 yard long diagonal balls to the big lad and knives to gunfights.

Or Baines and Pienaar's exquisite link up play. Up there with the highest level football I have seen Everton play. Or attacking midfielders like Arteta and Cahill. Or scoring 4 at Old Trafford. Can't remember us doing that under any other manager?

 

[davek]

There's a whole generation of Everton fans 23 and under who wont remember round 1 mate - incredible. They wont have known Coleman and Baines storming the flanks, Pienaar and Donovan cutting infront of them. Arteta bossing the tempo and threading balls through the eye of a needle. Super Tim Cahill Yorkshire Terriering the hearts of PL defenders until they broke, big Mo Fro running up the field with 12 hanging out of him. Super Lee Carsley doing his best Gandalf impression.

These fans are in for a treat, they've known noting but tat! Its there time now for (Dare i say) good times!

Or Baines and Pienaar's exquisite link up play. Up there with the highest level football I have seen Everton play. Or attacking midfielders like Arteta and Cahill. Or scoring 4 at Old Trafford. Can't remember us doing that under any other manager?

...or Unsworth waddling up the line or Straquelersi falling on his face.