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2024/25 David Moyes

It’s just ridiculous that some people think that this group of players could get 48 points in the premier league despite being undercoached.

It is seriously seriously overrating their ability. This lot can barely pass a ball yet people think Dyche just did very little and the attacking talents of McNeil Harrison Doucoure and Calvert Lewin waltzed their way to 48 points themselves?
Oh he tried having Everton more expansive hence those opening matches against Bournemouth and Villa, he just could not marry the his ethos to a more attractive exciting entertaining way to play football, without compromising too much. Lost his poop went back to root one, what he knows. That why so many of us state he was too limited.
 


Moyes, McKinley, Irvine and possibly Charlie fkin Adam doesn’t inspire me with confidence tbh, at least Baines been given a chance amongst the coaching set up although he should have been shouting the odds/putting his oar in over team selection for the Villa game
 
Moyes seems a bit soft somehow. I hope he's being tougher on the players than he is with the media. We're in trouble!
For someone in the door a couple days. I dont think ive seen a new manager call out players like he has. In the first day never mind month/year.

Probably doesn't even know all thoer names yet practically.

Wouldn't say he's soft at all. Id call it mental.. if he didn't have 11 great years and a big legacy here.
 
I think it comes down to how big of an achievement you consider 48 points to be.

It's not uncommon for awful teams with awful managers to have the odd season where everything goes right and they finish comfortable in mid-table, especially if all three promoted teams are dead on arrival.

There's also the fact that we had the 11th highest wage bill and 5th highest paid manager to consider, as these only add to making it less of a miracle.

No one is saying it was a miracle. People are saying the players weren’t being coached though. I don’t know any team that could survive in the premier league unless they’re coached to an extremely good standard let alone one that could get that group of players to have the 4th best defence in the league.

I don’t know too many teams with awful players and awful managers who have finished mid table with that points total.

The salary of the manager is completely irrelevant. He got it because he held all the negotiating cards when we hired him, we held none. Had he arrived any other time we wouldn’t have paid him that salary so it’s irrelevant to whether or not the players were or weren’t coached.

There’s been poor squads at Everton for the majority of the Moshiri period and it just got worse and worse as PSR bit through Benitez Lampard and then Dyche.

Looking at the performances under all those managers if people seriously don’t think the players are being coached as we reeled off wins away at Brighton, West Ham, Brentford, Palace, home to Arsenal Chelsea, Newcastle, Liverpool, Bournemouth etc. then they’re living in a fantasy world.

You can’t just send 11 of this squad onto a pitch with little to no coaching and seriously expect them to perform? It’s laughable.
 

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