2024/25 David Moyes

[If You Know Your History]

I’m all for it . Call it out, not good enough.

Might wake the crowd back up as well that we actually need the atmosphere, the bite, the hostility. Maybe even the f’ing coach welcomes. This lot need dragging across the line again unless we can strengthen.

We have 9 enormous league matches at Goodison between now and the end of the season.
Those matches will ultimately determine the long-term fate of our club.

We, as fans, need to make Goodison as it was during the Crystal Palace game under Frank.

 

[SuperKev91]

We have 9 enormous league matches at Goodison between now and the end of the season.
Those matches will ultimately determine the long-term fate of our club.

We, as fans, need to make Goodison as it was during the Crystal Palace game under Frank.

100% mate. Apathy and entitlement that we’re seeing now is going to leave us struggling. The atmosphere has been terrible for a while (I understand the frustration and how burnt out we all are but this lot need dragging).

 

[Yarrgh]

100% mate. Apathy and entitlement that we’re seeing now is going to leave us struggling. The atmosphere has been terrible for a while (I understand the frustration and how burnt out we all are but this lot need dragging).

The fans in and around the stadium have pulled us through with their shear will power to keep us safe in recent seasons.

One more push at Goodison and this team should be away from trouble. I sense that a spark is on its way and we'll see that happen.

 

[Harryflashman]

100% mate. Apathy and entitlement that we’re seeing now is going to leave us struggling. The atmosphere has been terrible for a while (I understand the frustration and how burnt out we all are but this lot need dragging).

Yeah people are drained . The ground move can’t come soon enough and it breaks my heart to say that

 

[Delargeinho]

This will sound weird but I'll take losing to Villa but pressing a bit more and having chances than Sean Dyche's defensive football that gets a draw without ever trying to score. Playing for 0-0 would get you relegated. Lots of good signs on Wednesday, just need to build around our best players.

The good thing about Moyes at Everton last time was in the absence of a proper striker every player had a scoring instinct. Bring that back and we'll be sound.

I'm sure we will get our chances with the pressing approach, because Spurs will give more space than Villa do, but also we need to find the balance between pressing and defensive safety that cost us a point in the end and led 4-5 times to very dangerous situations.

The question will be like on Wednesday to finish those chances we had.

 

[Amokachi1995]

Hoping for a new idea against spurs. I get the argument that he doesn't have loads to work with but would be good to try something new.

 

[Caolam]

Hopefully we see signs of how David Moyes plans to get us out of the mess we are in on Sunday. Spurs can be very good on their day but also very ordinary at times, we need to go into this game with some intent, we need to score, we need to stop being whipping boys and show teams that we can hurt them.

 

[Delargeinho]

Hoping for a new idea against spurs. I get the argument that he doesn't have loads to work with but would be good to try something new.

3-4 changes in the line up would be a start. Harrison, Doucoure, DCL out

 

[Lob]

Hopefully he learned a lot from his first game. Got to give him the chance to improve us and that will have to include new signings to strengthen us. Meanwhile he has to try and find a way to pick up points because we are not going to get away with the teams below us losing for much longer. Someone will pick up points and it has to be us somehow.

 

[Amokachi1995]

3-4 changes in the line up would be a start. Harrison, Doucoure, DCL out

Yeah. Just something to change it up. Back 3. Ndiaye at 10. Whatever. Think we need to stick to being a defensive team but just something a bit different.

 

[Delargeinho]

Yeah. Just something to change it up. Back 3. Ndiaye at 10. Whatever. Think we need to stick to being a defensive team but just something a bit different.

Would be a solution, but Villa was luckily already less hoofball and more direct passing, more full backs allowing to cross or overlap, more ppl to join attack, higher pressing. It was a step forward, but there is a lot of work to do and cannot blame him to manage this in 2 days of training.

Moyes said the right thing, he wasn't entirely satisfied and says we got to do more, switch in attitude is helpful there. Let's see how we look tomorrow.

Back to performance culture, no more spa center.

 

[mccole]

A lot is being made of us not buying 10 players after less then a week in the job but as a coach, I think he will get the best from this current squad.

He has already identified that we need to get more crosses into the box and looking to get more width in the side. Under Dyche, his obsession with "Protecting the V" lead to a negative mindset and reduced the attacking players to counter attacks with minimum attacks due to the lack of pace.

We need to dictate the possession which we improved v Villa and move the ball quickly because the majority of our chances came this way.

I think we will add to the width and midfield to get more creative players in but McNeil, Tim and Garner coming back is excellent for Moyes, it's just a bit unfortunate we don't have them fully fit now.

 

[Carlito]

No one is saying it was a miracle. People are saying the players weren’t being coached though. I don’t know any team that could survive in the premier league unless they’re coached to an extremely good standard let alone one that could get that group of players to have the 4th best defence in the league.

I don’t know too many teams with awful players and awful managers who have finished mid table with that points total.

The salary of the manager is completely irrelevant. He got it because he held all the negotiating cards when we hired him, we held none. Had he arrived any other time we wouldn’t have paid him that salary so it’s irrelevant to whether or not the players were or weren’t coached.

There’s been poor squads at Everton for the majority of the Moshiri period and it just got worse and worse as PSR bit through Benitez Lampard and then Dyche.

Looking at the performances under all those managers if people seriously don’t think the players are being coached as we reeled off wins away at Brighton, West Ham, Brentford, Palace, home to Arsenal Chelsea, Newcastle, Liverpool, Bournemouth etc. then they’re living in a fantasy world.

You can’t just send 11 of this squad onto a pitch with little to no coaching and seriously expect them to perform? It’s laughable.

Well, Stoke came up from the Championship under Pulis and got 45, 47, 46, 45 and 42 points playing the sort of football Dyche produces. Alex McLeish got 50 points one season and won the League Cup the next at Birmingham. Palace got 45 and 48 points in consecutive seasons under Pulis and Pardew. Wilder managed 54 points with Sheffield United, while our good friend Sam took home 56 points in back-to-back seasons for Bolton.

It's possible for a limited manager to have anomalous seasons where playing dead and snatching goals from corners gets results, but it never lasts because riding your luck isn't a sustainable approach.

Unlike the other bottom-half clubs using many of the same players that brought them up from the Championship or even League One in some cases, Dyche had squad of experienced top-flight players that more or less know what they're doing at this level. Even his fabled defence was exposed and struggling any time Mina or Branthwaite weren't there to hold his mate Tarkowski's hand, and I'd say the biggest reason 40-year-old former winger Ashley Young has been arguably our best player this season is because he doesn't need a lot of instruction.

If Dyche isn't an awful manager then awful managers simply don't exist.

 

[anton66]

Wonder if he’ll phoning Dyche again to get some advice?

 

[MACCA75]

3-4 changes in the line up would be a start. Harrison, Doucoure, DCL out

I agree but who plays instead? Squad is so poor. Beto and Lindstrom would have to start and you just know they’d be hauled off themselves after 65 mins. Desperately need new players.