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Confirmed Signing Dele Alli

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Actually Alli's arrival is bad news for de Beek, he may get sidelined now at times. Which is an awful news ? We didn't need someone else in Alli's position imo. We should have addressed other areas.
they don’t play in the same position, Alli is a proper CAM. Donny’s natural position has always been an 8/Box to box. The issue United often had was seeing him as the ‘Bruno backup’ when he was never that guy. Donny is much closer to Doucoure (more technical less overly physical) and Alli is Sig’s younger, more mobile, less noncey replacement. They can easily play in a 3 with Alli playing a bit more advanced and Allan holding. We needed another CDM for sure but we were desperately lacking creativity and goals from the center, Alli can be that
 

Hmmm.. before you start mouthing off and being a keyboard warrior … I’m not backward or Aussie …you do realise that people move countries in their life if they want to don’t you?
Second….do you think ali is worth any sort of fee like 40m. If we sold Richy we would probably get 50?
DCL was being touted at 60m ? These are our two most sellable assets and are important players for us… ali has been frozen out by 3 managers , has hardly played and has done f all for about 2 years, is on massive wages and they want him out … he’s their equivalent to our bolasie , gomes , tuson etc …. As in we can’t shift them …. 40m is ridiculously expensive for him .
Do you understand the structure of the deal? The chances of us paying £40m is remote.
 
You rarely see players turn it around though. Think it’s a desperate signing but we’ll see

There are clearly risks to this transfer but there are reasons to be hopeful. He is only 25. He has 6 or 7 good years left potentially, maybe slightly more.

And he doesn't have to get back to his very best to be much better than what we already have. If we can get him back to 70% of his peak then he's going to be a good signing. A lot depends on the player himself but I've seen him play so he's clearly capable. It could go terribly, but it could also be great. He actually played well the other week against the Reds so I'm trying to be positive and open minded.
 
Ali was never exceptional … 67 goals in 230 odd games is not exceptional… he plays as a midfielder like Cahill used to… basically as a second striker but without all the defensive qualities that Cahill had in our own box
He 'was' exceptional, his first 3 seasons at spurs he averaged 12 goals and 9 assists in the PL between the age of 18-21, he has since fell off a cliff and thats the reason we have been offered him.
Has a somewhat dodgy set of hamstrings which never bodes well at our club, but at 25 if we can get him even 80% firing again he could be a decent signing for us.
 
Do you understand the structure of the deal? The chances of us paying £40m is remote.
You would think it would mean we win the CL and Alli wins the balon d'or, whereas knowing our negotiating skills it could also be if we are still in operation come 2023..
Levy is a tight fisted mofo!
 
Ali was never exceptional … 67 goals in 230 odd games is not exceptional… he plays as a midfielder like Cahill used to… basically as a second striker but without all the defensive qualities that Cahill had in our own box

By the time he reached 21, he had the same number of goals and assists as Gerrard, Beckham and Lampard had combined at the same age.

That is exceptional, for me.

But in the 4 years since he has been so poor for multiple managers. Attitude problems. Lack of effort in training and in games. Losing posession so much. One of my friends are a Tottenham fan and they said "he lost his edge". They were very frustrated with him because they know how good he can be.

That does not mean he can not get his edge back, but what will Lampard do that Conte, Mourinho and Nuno did not?
 
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By the time he reached 21, he had the same number of goals and assists as Gerrard, Beckham and Lampard had combined at the same age.

That is exceptional, for me.

But in the 4 years since he has been so poor for multiple managers. Attitude problems. Lack of effort. One of my friends are a Tottenham fan and they said "he lost his edge". They were very frustrated with him because they know how good he can be.

That does not mean he can not get his edge back, but what will Lampard do that Conte, Mourinho and Nuno did not?
I think that Lampard may be a bit more relatable than the above would be one key point - in particular Mourinho and Conte appear to be quite abrasive characters
 
Dele Alli was still top class until the latter half of the 19/20 season. Mourinho couldn't get a tune out of him post lockdown.

It's not been four years but 18 months. Fingers crossed Lampard and Goodison are the spark he needs. If so, we have a tremendous player on our hands.
 

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