2023/24 Dele

[Marius57]

He's not registered to any club. How can we loan an unregistered player mate?

One day, just maybe, that joke won’t bypass you

 

[BNJ1878]

The contract between Spurs and Everton is crystal clear. Spurs didn't budge all last season and won't now either. They want the money the contract between EFC and Spurs says was due. They have no interest to negotiate or budge.

The Barry example even confirms the point.

That's the point though! It's NOT crystal clear.

The only people who know the contract status are Deles agent and the two clubs. The rest is pure speculation.

Everton tried to renegotiate when he had 7 or 8 games left before a trigger payment and we had no wiggle room with funds. Spurs wouldn't budge (as is their right). As it turned out, he got injured again so it was a moot point.

It's possible we owe something if we sign him, but nobody knows outside of those mentioned above.

 

[Jacko93]

Tbf, it could all come down to a single line in the contact that may simply say, 'Spurs are due £Xm if Dele represents Everton professionally in X number of games. If there was no time bound statement in that contractual agreement, then Dele could play his Xth game for us in 2034 after playing for 12 different teams in between, and we'd still owe Spurs.

 

[Damo_1878]

One day, just maybe, that joke won’t bypass you

If this is the standard of GOT humour these days then some of you need to get new material .

I do believe people have commented this about this "loan" thing before in this very thread

 

[Damo_1878]

That's the point though! It's NOT crystal clear.

The only people who know the contract status are Deles agent and the two clubs. The rest is pure speculation.

Everton tried to renegotiate when he had 7 or 8 games left before a trigger payment and we had no wiggle room with funds. Spurs wouldn't budge (as is their right). As it turned out, he got injured again so it was a moot point.

It's possible we owe something if we sign him, but nobody knows outside of those mentioned above.

We do know it is crystal clear

 

[JimmyK]

Can’t recall the details on the Barry one but wasn’t his deal extended while under contract and that’s why the fee was due (ie prevented him becoming a free agent / basically had an ‘option’ on him)?

No we signed Barry on loan for the last season of his deal at City. Once that deal with City ran out he was a free agent and could move anywhere with no fee except Everton because the loan deal had a clause that said if we signed him permanently we had to pay. Whats important is the clause in the transfer deal not the players contract so if Dele's deal had clauses in it they don't go away just because his original contract with us ended.

 

[BNJ1878]

Tbf, it could all come down to a single line in the contact that may simply say, 'Spurs are due £Xm if Dele represents Everton professionally in X number of games. If there was no time bound statement in that contractual agreement, then Dele could play his Xth game for us in 2034 after playing for 12 different teams in between, and we'd still owe Spurs.

Exactly, but until that contract is in the public domain it's pure guesswork from footy experts sat in their undies at home.

 

[Marius57]

If this is the standard of GOT humour these days then some of you need to get new material .

I do believe people have commented this about this "loan" thing before in this very thread

It’s still funny because posters who think very highly of themselves and act as bastion of knowledge regarding everton still get taken in by it…. Every….. single…… time

 

[BNJ1878]

We do know it is crystal clear

Where's your evidence?

And by evidence I mean a contract copy signed by both clubs.

 

[Damo_1878]

No we signed Barry on loan for the last season of his deal at City. Once that deal with City ran out he was a free agent and could move anywhere with no fee except Everton because the loan deal had a clause that said if we signed him permanently we had to pay. Whats important is the clause in the transfer deal not the players contract so if Dele's deal had clauses in it they don't go away just because his original contract with us ended.

100%

 

[Damo_1878]

Exactly, but until that contract is in the public domain it's pure guesswork from footy experts sat in their undies at home.

It's not guess work though. Dele Alli needs moving on

We need to stop throwing good money after bad and stop being so sentimental

He's finished and not an Everton standard player

 

[BNJ1878]

It's not guess work though. Dele Alli needs moving on

We need to stop throwing good money after bad and stop being so sentimental

He's finished and not an Everton standard player

Again, where is your crystal clear evidence that we owe money if we sign a free agent?

Don't change the topic.

I'm not arguing the suitability of the signing. I'm saying you don't know.

 

[MikeH72]

If Dyche thought he could offer the team something and he was fit, he would have played.

We would have made another sale before the end of June, or sold dobbin/bought Tim for more than we did.

You say this like it’s dead easy, who would we have sold? Branthwaite for £35m? We’d have been in a terrible PSR position.

 

[Marius57]

You say this like it’s dead easy, who would we have sold? Branthwaite for £35m? We’d have been in a terrible PSR position.

We got £10m for Dobbin. Let’s not pretend there weren’t more deals to be done with these clubs.

 

[arch stanton]

When is a loan not a loan....



When it a GOT loan