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Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

@Brendan Janus I’m so sorry for the position you find yourself in. Every year I check this thread around this time and it breaks my heart even more to see people feeling lonely and depressed at this time of year.

I can’t offer anything more useful and meaningful than the contributors that have gone before me, but I do want to pick up on something you said and that’s your (very understandable) desire to be cared for.

Unfortunately, as an adult, our siblings, friends etc tend to have some all-consuming stuff going on in their lives and, quite frankly, if we don’t work to stay on their radar then we can find ourselves off it regardless of how much love they have for us. You sound like you’re very overwhelmed and so I’m not going to suggest that any steps you need to take are “easy” but at this stage the only choices require hard work of some kind.

A straightforward step might be to use the calendar/reminder function on your phone to schedule weekly/fortnightly messages or calls to your small circle. Maybe send the first message and explain that you miss regular contact with them and this is the first step in addressing that from your end.

You should also concentrate on what it is you’re asking people to care for. What aspects of yourself do you think you could be proud of, albeit with a little TLC? Love and care shouldn’t require a quid pro quo, but sometimes people might need to be reminded of what it is they love about you and want to help care for, in order to re establish what you once had. It’d be hard for them to do that if you have such a negative opinion of yourself overall. Again it’s easier said than done so focus on some really small things.

You’re a £40m GOT poster who got there without being a WUM, so I couldn’t be more convinced that you’ve a lot of really good qualities!!

I’m on the wind down for Chrimbo now, work wise, so I’ll have a bit more time on here in the coming couple of weeks. If you ever want to drop a PM even just to chat nonsense, then please do. I already care enough about you to want to stop you coming to any harm if I can, so please let that help you understand that there’s enough love and care out there for you if you can just put in a few of the hard yards required to get it.

I wish you the very best mate, and I look forward to what I know will be some positive updates from you in the future.
 
@Brendan Janus I’m so sorry for the position you find yourself in. Every year I check this thread around this time and it breaks my heart even more to see people feeling lonely and depressed at this time of year.

I can’t offer anything more useful and meaningful than the contributors that have gone before me, but I do want to pick up on something you said and that’s your (very understandable) desire to be cared for.

Unfortunately, as an adult, our siblings, friends etc tend to have some all-consuming stuff going on in their lives and, quite frankly, if we don’t work to stay on their radar then we can find ourselves off it regardless of how much love they have for us. You sound like you’re very overwhelmed and so I’m not going to suggest that any steps you need to take are “easy” but at this stage the only choices require hard work of some kind.

A straightforward step might be to use the calendar/reminder function on your phone to schedule weekly/fortnightly messages or calls to your small circle. Maybe send the first message and explain that you miss regular contact with them and this is the first step in addressing that from your end.

You should also concentrate on what it is you’re asking people to care for. What aspects of yourself do you think you could be proud of, albeit with a little TLC? Love and care shouldn’t require a quid pro quo, but sometimes people might need to be reminded of what it is they love about you and want to help care for, in order to re establish what you once had. It’d be hard for them to do that if you have such a negative opinion of yourself overall. Again it’s easier said than done so focus on some really small things.

You’re a £40m GOT poster who got there without being a WUM, so I couldn’t be more convinced that you’ve a lot of really good qualities!!

I’m on the wind down for Chrimbo now, work wise, so I’ll have a bit more time on here in the coming couple of weeks. If you ever want to drop a PM even just to chat nonsense, then please do. I already care enough about you to want to stop you coming to any harm if I can, so please let that help you understand that there’s enough love and care out there for you if you can just put in a few of the hard yards required to get it.

I wish you the very best mate, and I look forward to what I know will be some positive updates from you in the future.
Thank you mate,

But I don't have any positive vibes re me, everyone looks down on me, I'm just known as a waste of space, a survivor, oh he's alright, he'll get by, I used check out on my Mum & Arl Fella always, cared for him when Mum passed away, nobody would give a [Poor language removed] about me if I was in the gutter, at the moment I am not in the gutter, but it is a close/fine line that I maybe soon !!
 
Thank you mate,

But I don't have any positive vibes re me, everyone looks down on me, I'm just known as a waste of space, a survivor, oh he's alright, he'll get by, I used check out on my Mum & Arl Fella always, cared for him when Mum passed away, nobody would give a [Poor language removed] about me if I was in the gutter, at the moment I am not in the gutter, but it is a close/fine line that I maybe soon !!
Stay strong mate, I'm sorry you're having a tough time at the moment, don't be so hard on yourself mate, keep posting on here we care about anyone who is looking for a little support, everyone needs a lift from others from time to time.
 
Thank you mate,

But I don't have any positive vibes re me, everyone looks down on me, I'm just known as a waste of space, a survivor, oh he's alright, he'll get by, I used check out on my Mum & Arl Fella always, cared for him when Mum passed away, nobody would give a [Poor language removed] about me if I was in the gutter, at the moment I am not in the gutter, but it is a close/fine line that I maybe soon !!
You say you have nothing positive to say about yourself and then go on to describe what a caring son you were through some really difficult times. If you do nothing else of note for the rest of your days that’s still something you can be proud of.

It’s clear you’re hurting and you’ve been let down by those closest to you so I’m not going to bombard you with positivity. I hope whatever damage there is between you and your family/friends is reparable. If not, I hope you can follow some of the advice in here and find new people (professional or otherwise) to talk to and help you through these dark times. You’ve already taken a big step, opening up in here. I know it’s a whole different kettle of fish to do it face to face with someone but it has to be worth it.
 
Nobody cares mate !

I have a couple of friends, & a sister, who I text, but they never text me first, I know it's not a game of who should text first, but just pointing this out.

I used to go home & away, never miss a game for thirty years or so, now it's a struggle to put the rubbish out !!
I struggle sometimes. I'll have weekends where I spend most of it sleeping.
I've also realised people just have busy lives and they still care about me but I don't see them much.
This weekend I've just put music on and been out for a couple of long walks. It just clears my head and relaxes me.
There is always tickets floating round if you want them. I had a quick look yesterday for Wolves on boxing day and there is still good tickets available.
 

I struggle sometimes. I'll have weekends where I spend most of it sleeping.
I've also realised people just have busy lives and they still care about me but I don't see them much.
This weekend I've just put music on and been out for a couple of long walks. It just clears my head and relaxes me.
There is always tickets floating round if you want them. I had a quick look yesterday for Wolves on boxing day and there is still good tickets available.
Thanks mate,

But the thought of leaving the flat & being surrounded by thousands of people scares me shitless :blush:
 
I struggle sometimes. I'll have weekends where I spend most of it sleeping.
I've also realised people just have busy lives and they still care about me but I don't see them much.
This weekend I've just put music on and been out for a couple of long walks. It just clears my head and relaxes me.
There is always tickets floating round if you want them. I had a quick look yesterday for Wolves on boxing day and there is still good tickets available.
I remember your posts from a while ago about your breakup and relationship with your daughter (correct me if I’m wrong). Sounds like you’ve come a really long way mate; if anyone can serve as an inspiration to those having a hard time it’s you.
 
I have this feeling of all ways wanting the toilet too, scares me also, I am a right basket case !
Not at all mate, psychosomatic that. All stems from anxiety. Lass I studied with had the same problem. She'd often leg it to the loo after a seminar because the anxiety got on top of her. She did get to the point of controlling it, but took a lot of CBT.
 

Not at all mate, psychosomatic that. All stems from anxiety. Lass I studied with had the same problem. She'd often leg it to the loo after a seminar because the anxiety got on top of her. She did get to the point of controlling it, but took a lot of CBT.
I think I need a lot of CBT ! I'm ok for work, it's only a ten minute drive, but if I go distances, I plan where service stations are, just in case, I went to Milton Keynes earlier in the year & had to stop at every service station the M6 & M1, but didn't always need to go !!
 
Not the greatest fan of this time of year. Think so many of us would be happier if it was just declared a time to hibernate. Buy this, pretend to be cheerful etc. Bah. With finances and the economy etc, particularly this year, I imagine many are feeling crappy and pressured

Me? I'm in that box, but my old man died on the 20th 9 years ago. Always feel flat each year since.

Anyway, if you're not feeling it, for whatever reason, you're really not alone. And there's no shame in it.
 
Not the greatest fan of this time of year. Think so many of us would be happier if it was just declared a time to hibernate. Buy this, pretend to be cheerful etc. Bah. With finances and the economy etc, particularly this year, I imagine many are feeling crappy and pressured

Me? I'm in that box, but my old man died on the 20th 9 years ago. Always feel flat each year since.

Anyway, if you're not feeling it, for whatever reason, you're really not alone. And there's no shame in it.

I absolutely love the festive period, mostly being off work, but detest Christmas Day. It has just never lived up to the way I want it to be in my head.
 
Not the greatest fan of this time of year. Think so many of us would be happier if it was just declared a time to hibernate. Buy this, pretend to be cheerful etc. Bah. With finances and the economy etc, particularly this year, I imagine many are feeling crappy and pressured

Me? I'm in that box, but my old man died on the 20th 9 years ago. Always feel flat each year since.

Anyway, if you're not feeling it, for whatever reason, you're really not alone. And there's no shame in it.
Sorry to hear about your arl fella mate !!
 
I think I need a lot of CBT ! I'm ok for work, it's only a ten minute drive, but if I go distances, I plan where service stations are, just in case, I went to Milton Keynes earlier in the year & had to stop at every service station the M6 & M1, but didn't always need to go !!
Yeah, it's not necessarily the be all and end all but it works for some. Have you tried getting in touch with the Liverpool NHS provider? I'm assuming you're in Liverpool, apologies if you aren't. https://www.talkliverpool.nhs.uk/what-we-do/further-therapies/
 

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