Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

royalbluewithcheese · July 12, 2016

I have been reading this forum for a while, never posted though. I'm not sure if this has been posted before but this a service I work for, it is nationwide and is run mainly by the NHS and some other providers. It is easily accessed either through your GP our directly to the service. More info on the link happy to answer any questions.

http://www.iapt.nhs.uk

Degs62 · July 12, 2016

wbn61 said:
that's my problem the meds, I am averse to using meds

Have you tried meditation?

wbn61 · July 12, 2016

Degs62 said:
Have you tried meditation?

of sorts. I see meditation as mind over matter which I use all the time.

wbn61 · July 12, 2016

had a good day out. some exercise and learnt a few things. had a test done and I am classified as clinically depressed lol. I don't feel depressed, maybe a bit down but the results of the test say otherwise. anti depressants were discussed but I don't think I am ready for that yet. I was offered to see a psychotherapist which I have done last time I took the test (I wasn't told then that I was suffering depression) I said no because I thought it was just to assess whether I was suicidal or not and had been through all that talk last time. apparently depressed people do not commit suicide, which was new to me, I wont go through all the reasons that was explained to me but depression is not one of the indicators that leads them to believe a person is suicidal. anyway I am goin to try steroids again, just 1 a day for a week to see how it goes. I need to keep on fighting and think that's my 1st step. due a house visit from macmillan nurses soon and maybe they can advise me further. waiting game again lol.

COYBL25 · July 12, 2016

wbn61 said:
had a good day out. some exercise and learnt a few things. had a test done and I am classified as clinically depressed lol. I don't feel depressed, maybe a bit down but the results of the test say otherwise. anti depressants were discussed but I don't think I am ready for that yet. I was offered to see a psychotherapist which I have done last time I took the test (I wasn't told then that I was suffering depression) I said no because I thought it was just to assess whether I was suicidal or not and had been through all that talk last time. apparently depressed people do not commit suicide, which was new to me, I wont go through all the reasons that was explained to me but depression is not one of the indicators that leads them to believe a person is suicidal. anyway I am goin to try steroids again, just 1 a day for a week to see how it goes. I need to keep on fighting and think that's my 1st step. due a house visit from macmillan nurses soon and maybe they can advise me further. waiting game again lol.

I know you say you don't want to take meds mate and I've mentioned it before, but how about considering sedatives ?.
They'll help ease the feelings of anxiety significantly, they won't make you feel drowsy which is a common misconception.

wbn61 · July 12, 2016

COYBL25 said:
I know you say you don't want to take meds mate and I've mentioned it before, but how about considering sedatives ?.
They'll help ease the feelings of anxiety significantly, they won't make you feel drowsy which is a common misconception.

thanks but i'll stick with my plan for now. will probably discuss sedatives and other options with the macmillan nurses.

Bradley Cates · July 12, 2016

For several months, I have been suffering from depression and anxiety. I feel a lot better now but before, I was an absolute mess. I wrote a blog post for the Huffington Post about my experience in order to help others in the same situation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/bradley-cates/depression-anxiety_b_10931226.html

Groucho · July 12, 2016

Bradley Cates said:
For several months, I have been suffering from depression and anxiety. I feel a lot better now but before, I was an absolute mess. I wrote a blog post for the Huffington Post about my experience in order to help others in the same situation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/bradley-cates/depression-anxiety_b_10931226.html

I've come across you on Twitter I think mate, retweeted some things you've previously done on the subject.

You run that stats account don't you? That's great btw.

Bradley Cates · July 12, 2016

Groucho said:
I've come across you on Twitter I think mate, retweeted some things you've previously done on the subject.

You run that stats account don't you? That's great btw.

Yeah, I'm EFC Statto. And thanks!

summerisle · July 13, 2016

Bradley Cates said:
Yeah, I'm EFC Statto. And thanks!

That's a great account. Post in here, it's all your stats anyway.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/unusual-everton-statistics.89371/

thebluenosebolt · July 13, 2016

Just wondering, Why are people so against using drugs ?
My life has become so much better on citalaphram, It is also great if
you suffer with IBS (due to stress) It is one of it's many uses.
I do however find you very brave if your able to live with your depression without help, I know I couldn't.
Will check out @Bradley Cates , EFC Statto stuff...sounds interesting, Yes, please post away sir.

DualityNSNO · July 13, 2016

thebluenosebolt said:
Just wondering, Why are people so against using drugs ?
My life has become so much better on citalaphram, It is also great if
you suffer with IBS (due to stress) It is one of it's many uses.
I do however find you very brave if your able to live with your depression without help, I know I couldn't.
Will check out @Bradley Cates , EFC Statto stuff...sounds interesting, Yes, please post away sir.

It's a mental thing for most, me included. Everyone knows they're a fix and help, but it's the mental block of using them, as it's one thing to admit and see you've got a problem, but much more daunting to see that you're that broken that you need pills, if that makes sense.

It's also rather illogical, because everyone that needs the pills know they need the pills, but it's got the same feeling as going to the doctors in the first place - it's... scary.

It's obviously not the same for everyone, I can't speak for all, but just saying what it was for me. In the end I didn't get pills...

thebluenosebolt · July 13, 2016

DualityNSNO said:
It's a mental thing for most, me included. Everyone knows they're a fix and help, but it's the mental block of using them, as it's one thing to admit and see you've got a problem, but much more daunting to see that you're that broken that you need pills, if that makes sense.

It's also rather illogical, because everyone that needs the pills know they need the pills, but it's got the same feeling as going to the doctors in the first place - it's... scary.

It's obviously not the same for everyone, I can't speak for all, but just saying what it was for me. In the end I didn't get pills...

And more power to you. Wish I was as brave mate.
I would like to add though that actually, what they do...er do is effect the train of thought process, Yes they take away the mental anguish but you also feel less emotional altogether and often forget more important things...So I wouldn't say they are a cure all.
Well done though, Wish you all the very best of luck..One day I may try being au naturale

DualityNSNO · July 13, 2016

thebluenosebolt said:
And more power to you. Wish I was as brave mate.
I would like to add though that actually, what they do...er do is effect the train of thought process, Yes they take away the mental anguish but you also feel less emotional altogether and often forget more important things...So I wouldn't say they are a cure all.
Well done though, Wish you all the very best of luck..One day I may try being au naturale

I'm already like that so that won't be exactly a massive problem... or be a bigger one? lol Except for dogs, dogs are love, dogs are life.

Thanks mate, and likewise to you, but imo - do whatever works for you, not what someone else does.

hallamblue · July 13, 2016

wbn61 said:
had a good day out. some exercise and learnt a few things. had a test done and I am classified as clinically depressed lol. I don't feel depressed, maybe a bit down but the results of the test say otherwise. anti depressants were discussed but I don't think I am ready for that yet. I was offered to see a psychotherapist which I have done last time I took the test (I wasn't told then that I was suffering depression) I said no because I thought it was just to assess whether I was suicidal or not and had been through all that talk last time. apparently depressed people do not commit suicide, which was new to me, I wont go through all the reasons that was explained to me but depression is not one of the indicators that leads them to believe a person is suicidal. anyway I am goin to try steroids again, just 1 a day for a week to see how it goes. I need to keep on fighting and think that's my 1st step. due a house visit from macmillan nurses soon and maybe they can advise me further. waiting game again lol.

When my dad got cancer it was swiftly followed by clinical depression. I googled depression and the first site that came up was Macmillan. Turns out 50% of cancer sufferers get depression, which is understandable. My dad has ended up on drugs, but he got paranoia and ended up in a psychiatric unit first before he got proper meds. It all depends on your personality. My dad's not a fighter like you mate, if you don't want medication don't take it, but do talk. My dad is rubbish at talking, as are most men. Keep venting on here, tell us how you feel, we are all here for you.