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Player Valuation: £1.5m
Will do mate,
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njligernj
Player Valuation: £15m
First of absolutely top thread lads ... so proud of this forum for having something like this. Cheers.
SOOOOOOO ...
This hit me like a stomach punch. Yeah that would be nice.
I read through half the thread today (had to stop a couple of times) and will do the rest tomorrow. Once again great job to everyone. In some ways I feel like I am coming out a depression.
Started exercising a lot more (lost a bunch of weight -- only comments thus far have been "ewwww" when someone was feeling my leg and I also overheard someone say I looked much older ... so it's going great!) and joining up with some activities ... has certainly helped to some degree.
On the other hand one of the things depression does is flatten everything out and numb everything -- so once I start feeling less depressed I stick my head up and look around. I don't like what I see ... then that gets me depressed again. Vicious circle. The idea that the people who should support you the most in times like these (friends and family) might actually be part of the problem rather than the solution ... that's a rough one. I have almost no idea how to approach that as a problem.
Have always avoided medication (I take zero medication right now for anything be it mental or physical -- had some "when you need them" pills for panic attacks a year or so ago but don't use them any longer) so the idea of staying clean is appealing .. but doesn't seem to be working. I tried the fish oil and exercise thing (supposedly tested just as good as some anti-depression meds) but not that successful.
More later. No danger of me hurting myself (I am super paranoid about anything like that) but certainly very down right now.
SOOOOOOO ...
This hit me like a stomach punch. Yeah that would be nice.
I read through half the thread today (had to stop a couple of times) and will do the rest tomorrow. Once again great job to everyone. In some ways I feel like I am coming out a depression.
Started exercising a lot more (lost a bunch of weight -- only comments thus far have been "ewwww" when someone was feeling my leg and I also overheard someone say I looked much older ... so it's going great!) and joining up with some activities ... has certainly helped to some degree.
On the other hand one of the things depression does is flatten everything out and numb everything -- so once I start feeling less depressed I stick my head up and look around. I don't like what I see ... then that gets me depressed again. Vicious circle. The idea that the people who should support you the most in times like these (friends and family) might actually be part of the problem rather than the solution ... that's a rough one. I have almost no idea how to approach that as a problem.
Have always avoided medication (I take zero medication right now for anything be it mental or physical -- had some "when you need them" pills for panic attacks a year or so ago but don't use them any longer) so the idea of staying clean is appealing .. but doesn't seem to be working. I tried the fish oil and exercise thing (supposedly tested just as good as some anti-depression meds) but not that successful.
More later. No danger of me hurting myself (I am super paranoid about anything like that) but certainly very down right now.
thirdmantackle
Player Valuation: £35m
That's tough lad.
And I'm sorry it was my comment that triggered that off.
But unless you have some sort of a support network around you then its always going to be hard.
Chin up!
Fair play on the weight loss. Something most people struggle to do!
Try out something different. Set a goal or two. I've found starting a team sport or activity with people I don't know can help as you're creating new positive relationships.
And I'm sorry it was my comment that triggered that off.
But unless you have some sort of a support network around you then its always going to be hard.
Chin up!
Fair play on the weight loss. Something most people struggle to do!
Try out something different. Set a goal or two. I've found starting a team sport or activity with people I don't know can help as you're creating new positive relationships.
blue4eva77
Yarmolenko ? Yes please
Superb that !!
I for one know how hard this can be and it takes a massive effort to even get going. Then an even bigger effort to keep going once you've started. Fantastic this, truly great stuff.
I couldn't help but notice that you said you sometimes feel less depressed and that you ' stick your head up '. Reading between the lines and to cut a long story short, i think this is a vast improvement from what i remember you posting not long ago, when it seemed you couldn't see a way out. That right there is a sign you're improving and the little steps you have taken so far, is helping. As an outsider, i see the ' sticking your head up ' as a sign you're getting stronger.
Keep up the good effort mate.
I'm interested in this weight loss of yours. If you don't feel like sharing on the boards, send me a PM and we can chat about it and other things if you like.
Sorry, I had no idea mate.
Quite a big anxiety of mine, this, and the same anxiety put my mate on beta-blockers.
My fear of this almost stopped me enjoying her being pregnant.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
Thanks mate, long time ago........
I read that about 1 in 5 pregnancies end in miscarriage, usually early on, so it's quite common. I'm a strong believer though in enjoying the moment and not worrying about what might happen (particularly those events that you have no direct control over).
You can't go through life without having difficulties at some stage, the effect of those difficulties is driven by your response to them - positive thinking even in a situation with a negative outcome always beats negative thinking.
I accept it's not easy and always possible to find a positive in some circumstances, but the process of seeking a positive is in itself helpful, and leads to brighter days..........
Dell Boy
Player Valuation: £35m
Top post.
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
After the tragic news tonight about Robin Williams committing suicide, this definitely needs bumping.
Never has this thread been more relevant. Please, if anyone is depressed out there, don't feel alone. Honestly, nothing is ever as bad as it seems. Talk to someone, it WILL help.
Never has this thread been more relevant. Please, if anyone is depressed out there, don't feel alone. Honestly, nothing is ever as bad as it seems. Talk to someone, it WILL help.
AaronTheBlue
Player Valuation: £60m
The Robin Williams news has shocked me.
I'll be honest this is probably the wrong place to do it but i just want to vent a little bit, hopefully i don't get dogs abuse for it.
I don't know if it's depression or not, i haven't went or bothered to get it checked out because i don't want to seem weak. I have wanted to speak to someone sometimes but i find it hard because for me it's like i'm being pathetic or wanting attention and that thought only adds to what i feel,
I'm in my early twenties now but since around the age of fifteen, for no reason i started to have dark thoughts. Which again i used to beat myself up over because i have nothing to be upset over, i have a good family (mostly) really good group of friends, and i have only really suffered the loss of my grandad, when others have suffered so much more than me why should i be so upset?
It's like i go through phases, sometimes i cope with what i feel really well and i can just get on with it other times i go through phases of months of where all i can think about is death, i stop doing things for 'safety' which normally i would do such as foolishly not wearing my seatbelt, not because i want to be some 'rebel without a cause' it's just because i feel like i am actually done with life. All i think about sometimes is death, be it myself dying or visions of others dying.
I should be happy with myself but i can't be i often find myself hating who i am and everything about me, hoping that i don't wake up in the morning and that i don't have to face the day ahead. I never suffered any bullying at school either which just makes me wonder what this is, and why am i feeling like this.
I've had the feelings come more often now and the feeling of.. well nothingness and just not wanting to live is something that often creeps into my mind especially at night, i become quite lonely for no reason and even things i enjoy i don't enjoy for long.
Probably going to regret this, and apologies. Just needed to vent a bit.
I'll be honest this is probably the wrong place to do it but i just want to vent a little bit, hopefully i don't get dogs abuse for it.
I don't know if it's depression or not, i haven't went or bothered to get it checked out because i don't want to seem weak. I have wanted to speak to someone sometimes but i find it hard because for me it's like i'm being pathetic or wanting attention and that thought only adds to what i feel,
I'm in my early twenties now but since around the age of fifteen, for no reason i started to have dark thoughts. Which again i used to beat myself up over because i have nothing to be upset over, i have a good family (mostly) really good group of friends, and i have only really suffered the loss of my grandad, when others have suffered so much more than me why should i be so upset?
It's like i go through phases, sometimes i cope with what i feel really well and i can just get on with it other times i go through phases of months of where all i can think about is death, i stop doing things for 'safety' which normally i would do such as foolishly not wearing my seatbelt, not because i want to be some 'rebel without a cause' it's just because i feel like i am actually done with life. All i think about sometimes is death, be it myself dying or visions of others dying.
I should be happy with myself but i can't be i often find myself hating who i am and everything about me, hoping that i don't wake up in the morning and that i don't have to face the day ahead. I never suffered any bullying at school either which just makes me wonder what this is, and why am i feeling like this.
I've had the feelings come more often now and the feeling of.. well nothingness and just not wanting to live is something that often creeps into my mind especially at night, i become quite lonely for no reason and even things i enjoy i don't enjoy for long.
Probably going to regret this, and apologies. Just needed to vent a bit.
GwladysBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
I know exactly how you feel, funny enough I do the no seat belt in the car. No value for life at all.
I haven't posted in here for a while now, I've been trying to get myself together but my only happy times come when I'm completely bladdered.
My best friend, someone who has been there for me so much especially recently is moving away and I'm completely devastated by it. I honestly don't know how I'm going to cope without him.
Robin Williams committing suicide just goes to show that a laugh and smile can hide the most depressing of thoughts.
All I can say and hope is that in years from now, be it 1 year or 10 the things that depress us now may not even be an issue.
@AaronTheBlue @GwladysBlue sorry to hear you are both having those types of thoughts. Have either of you considered talking to someone who is experienced in helping people in the same situation? Hopefully one of the local lads can suggest some options as I'm out of touch with what is available back in the UK.
My husband went through a really dark period several years ago, his Dad and his sister have also had their troubles - all of them are in much happier frames of mind now. They used a variety of different ways so if one solution doesn't work for you another one might. One key thing for all of them was to keep talking about how they felt so they could get help so please keep posting on this thread.
Not sure if I can help in any way but if I can let me know.
My husband went through a really dark period several years ago, his Dad and his sister have also had their troubles - all of them are in much happier frames of mind now. They used a variety of different ways so if one solution doesn't work for you another one might. One key thing for all of them was to keep talking about how they felt so they could get help so please keep posting on this thread.
Not sure if I can help in any way but if I can let me know.
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
@AaronTheBlue @GwladysBlue I know where you are both coming from. I'm currently 21 and have been dealing with depression since I was 15/16 but never did anything about it until about 6 months ago for many of the same reasons Aaron mentioned such as not wanting to seem attention seeking or weak but in my head I thought getting help would sort of be like giving up or admitting defeat which I couldn't have been more wrong about. While I'm not vastly improved, going to therapy at my Uni has helped a bit, sometimes you just need someone to talk to. Aaron, depression is a terrible illness and anyone can have it no matter what their circumstances are. Just because you feel people have it worse than you doesn't invalidate your own struggles. I put off getting mine checked out for years because I would tell myself I just need to get over it considering I had a decent life with family and friends. I know how difficult a step it is but I really recommended you and anyone else who is dealing with depression and thoughts about death seek some kind of help. Therapy combined with exercise seems to be a big thing now in treatment so maybe try that. However everyone's different so some things might work for you some might not but give getting help a chance. If anyone needs to talk about their depression or a family/friend don't hesitate to message me! No one is alone in this.
BiggyRat
Player Valuation: £35m
The tears of a Clown.
