Discussion & help on depression & mental health related issues

[JelavicBrate2]

Thanks for the reply. We have a good relationship with his head of year and communicate regularly. Apart from a few minor incidents he's fine at school and all his teachers say he's fine. They even say he seems to be really popular. He has access to one of the staff (not sure of her exact role) that he can go and see anytime he wants to chat with. He also has seen an external therapist a couple of times who the school get in regularly to see kids. We've been to CAMHS twice and are awaiting a referral to the next level.

I don't don't know which bit of Liverpool were you are from but in general I think schools are a lot better than they are now dealing with problems. When I was growing up there was constant beef shootings stabbings almost every day in Liverpool. There was not much for a troubled kid to be optimistic about, even when I was growing up you still always had to watch your back. While I still can't see just how low I was, I once mixed with people who were involved with people who sold heroin and crack cocaine, even to this day I meet people involved in the drug trade and criminality. In general kid's these days have much better options in life, so in general they don't have to go the way many troubled kids went back in the past. If the teachers say he's doing well than that's good I went to see CAHMS when I was kid, I always thought they were helpful yet underfunded anyway good luck to your lad.

 

[paulf]

Great thread an fabulous support in here.Looked at thread for quite a while and If you dont mind thought I could suggest something...Having been through counselling and doctors prescription tablets over 18 months a good few years back for depression..I thought I would try a holistic approach after speaking to a few people this name kept popping up..Golden root or Rhodiola Rosea you can get in herb form to make a tea although an acquired taste or in liquid tablet form(which I used) after using after about 5 days I felt a difference in my general well being..didnt have that anguished feeling and everyday problems didn't seem so much of a hurdle to get over..ended up using for about 6/7 months and must admit for me they worked a treat...I know everyone's metabolism is different,
I used a brand call GAIA and got straight from the USA as cost was a lot cheaper...company if I remember was called Iherb..Hope this helps somebody

 

[COYBL25]

Great thread an fabulous support in here.Looked at thread for quite a while and If you dont mind thought I could suggest something...Having been through counselling and doctors prescription tablets over 18 months a good few years back for depression..I thought I would try a holistic approach after speaking to a few people this name kept popping up..Golden root or Rhodiola Rosea you can get in herb form to make a tea although an acquired taste or in liquid tablet form(which I used) after using after about 5 days I felt a difference in my general well being..didnt have that anguished feeling and everyday problems didn't seem so much of a hurdle to get over..ended up using for about 6/7 months and must admit for me they worked a treat...I know everyone's metabolism is different,
I used a brand call GAIA and got straight from the USA as cost was a lot cheaper...company if I remember was called Iherb..Hope this helps somebody

Great stuff, will have a look at them mate, as I'm always on the look out for new herbal stuff.

Ps - shouldn't be taken in conjunction with prescription meds, without consulting your doc first x

 

[COYBL25]

Big day for me tomorrow. Private prayers would be appreciated.

How's it going Bry ?

 

[barmcake]

I don't don't know which bit of Liverpool were you are from but in general I think schools are a lot better than they are now dealing with problems. When I was growing up there was constant beef shootings stabbings almost every day in Liverpool. There was not much for a troubled kid to be optimistic about, even when I was growing up you still always had to watch your back. While I still can't see just how low I was, I once mixed with people who were involved with people who sold heroin and crack cocaine, even to this day I meet people involved in the drug trade and criminality. In general kid's these days have much better options in life, so in general they don't have to go the way many troubled kids went back in the past. If the teachers say he's doing well than that's good I went to see CAHMS when I was kid, I always thought they were helpful yet underfunded anyway good luck to your lad.

I'm from Wigan and he goes to a nice school so when I talk about behaviour I'm not talking stabbings and heroin , it's more not doing as he's told and the flare ups he's having. Like I said, compared to some kids he's an angel but what he's doing now isnt right. It's also worth saying that in general he's fine. It just seems to be when his anger levels rise. Perfect example on Sunday. He was supposed to meet his 'girlfriend' to go shopping but she never got back to him. So he's losing the plot then because she hasn't replied and he's thinking the worst. After some reasoning from me he calmed down and that was it. Back to normal. Turned out she had a genuine reason for not going. At the time though he couldn't cope with the situation.

I agree though about the schools now. They have been really good with us and I don't think they could be doing much more for us to be honest. Hoping CAMHS will be able to get him the help he needs because he's a cracking lad without this hanging over him.

 

[flippa]

Had an awful few weeks and walked out the other day as it was all getting too much.

Anyway, finally got the figures and leave after 27 years on the 17th February. Can't wait. Some tough times coming no doubt but if I don't try I'll never know.

Here we go, here we go.......

Although the future looks tough at the moment, you've done the right thing for yourself, which is incredibly powerful and positive, so well done you. Good luck in the next steps

 

[Deleted member 28206]

How's it going Bry ?

Will PM you later mate. Nice one for the note.

 

[COYBL25]

Will PM you later mate. Nice one for the note.

No probs mate x

 

[anjelikaferrett]

Big day for me tomorrow. Private prayers would be appreciated.

You have them x

 

[Groucho]

Big day for me tomorrow. Private prayers would be appreciated.

Good luck, I think

Yes. They called me in March last year and went over my problems and said the waiting list is about 6 months.

I waited 8 months 2 years ago.

 

[flippa]

@Bryan about the counselling- sorry you're having to wait so long/ seeing no action. Have you thought about low-cost/ free/ group counselling? Most areas provide this, I did a quick google search for the North West and found these in Liverpool:

http://beaconcounsellingtrust.co.uk/free-counselling-in-liverpool/

http://www.compasscounselling.org.uk/counselling-services/

Also, this link came up- http://mcpt.co.uk/low-cost-placement/ - I know it's Manchester, but I think they'd be well placed to let you know about other services available in the Liverpool areas? (I don't know where you live obviously).

I'd say it's worth contacting them and seeing what they might be able to offer, as you might wait months for the NHS, and then what they offer you isn't quite right anyway. Also, as someone else said, waiting around is stress and anxiety-inducing in itself. I found, for myself at least, taking control of my treatment in this area made me start to feel more positive just by picking up the phone and getting the help I needed. Good luck.

 

[DanEFC92]

3rd counsoller meeting yesterday, getting easier.

Noticed I'm in less of a 'haze' since being on medication for about 2 months.

 

[JelavicBrate2]

I'm from Wigan and he goes to a nice school so when I talk about behaviour I'm not talking stabbings and heroin , it's more not doing as he's told and the flare ups he's having. Like I said, compared to some kids he's an angel but what he's doing now isnt right. It's also worth saying that in general he's fine. It just seems to be when his anger levels rise. Perfect example on Sunday. He was supposed to meet his 'girlfriend' to go shopping but she never got back to him. So he's losing the plot then because she hasn't replied and he's thinking the worst. After some reasoning from me he calmed down and that was it. Back to normal. Turned out she had a genuine reason for not going. At the time though he couldn't cope with the situation.

I agree though about the schools now. They have been really good with us and I don't think they could be doing much more for us to be honest. Hoping CAMHS will be able to get him the help he needs because he's a cracking lad without this hanging over him.

I suppose big city problem differ, I mean as you say your lad ain't that bad compared to some of the other kids. A lot of the the troubled kids were sent to these units, I knew a few lads myself who got sent there and there were kids involved in gun and knife crime and drugs. Sadly kid's with mental health or learning difficulties often end up being put in classes with people who are like this. I think schools are more understanding now so kid's with minor problems don't get sent to their lion pits.

 

[EFCPaul]

Felt better the past week or so, think the meds have properly kicked in now. Still having anxieties and other bad episodes but not nearly as bad, more like irritants now rather than full-blown panicking.

Work is still crappy, I've resigned myself to the fact that it's never going to get any better than currently is. Found out that they're having a leaving party for a girl in there and again, pretty much everyone is going except me, no one had even told me about it and I only found out because someone let it slip by accident. I'm more bemused than upset this time though. They act all nice to my face then pull something like that, again. Two-faced nobheads. Maybe it's because I'm not into the drug scene like many of them are, or because I actually have a personality whilst some of them don't and so they suck the arse of the certain person to make sure they're included.

Going to look for something else, it's clearly not a nice environment and I can't be arsed having people like that in my life. Not naive enough to think I'm ever going to find a workplace which is perfect but could you be arsed with being the person who is deliberately shunned for no reason? It's no way near as bad as the last place, I HAD to leave there for the sake of my mental health. This is just a case of me wanting to leave and not wanting to have to look at certain people anymore. Horrible pieces of work.

 

[COYBL25]

Felt better the past week or so, think the meds have properly kicked in now. Still having anxieties and other bad episodes but not nearly as bad, more like irritants now rather than full-blown panicking.

Work is still crappy, I've resigned myself to the fact that it's never going to get any better than currently is. Found out that they're having a leaving party for a girl in there and again, pretty much everyone is going except me, no one had even told me about it and I only found out because someone let it slip by accident. I'm more bemused than upset this time though. They act all nice to my face then pull something like that, again. Two-faced nobheads. Maybe it's because I'm not into the drug scene like many of them are, or because I actually have a personality whilst some of them don't and so they suck the arse of the certain person to make sure they're included.

Going to look for something else, it's clearly not a nice environment and I can't be arsed having people like that in my life. Not naive enough to think I'm ever going to find a workplace which is perfect but could you be arsed with being the person who is deliberately shunned for no reason? It's no way near as bad as the last place, I HAD to leave there for the sake of my mental health. This is just a case of me wanting to leave and not wanting to have to look at certain people anymore. Horrible pieces of work.

What's your job mate ?

Maybe look for a career change ?.