2018/19 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

[coollino]

I agree but wrong thread, look as one of the best players in the world starts sunday if he gets 30 min of play.

I agree with you there mate.

 

[Tel001]

I think the comparison with Kane is simply to say that EVEN kane, who is so good, was not that successful yet at this stage, so we can, as usual, live in hope! (you know, the same hope that kills us every day)

It’s not a one off tho , remeber people saying barkley was better than scholes, Lampard and Gerard at the same age?

Also read on here that Dominic royle sharp Kane Lewin , is in the top 6 players in the World in his position for his age.

 

[Barnfred 55]

You simply cannot know that.

I don't know how good this lad is going to turn out. What I do know is that he is more than decent for his age. Not many players can say they scored the winner in a U20 world cup final, or any world cup final for that matter. His stats for a 21 year old playing at the highest level are also decent.

He's already shown that he is a good squad player at premier level and any club outside of the top 6 would be happy to have them in their squads. He would be a regular starter for some of them.

Will he develop enough to become a regular starter for us, assuming we're competing for a champions league spot each year?. Personally I'm not convinced but as you say, who knows. I really hope he does though, if only to shove it down the faces of all those who have already written him off at such a young age. The same with the likes of Davies, Kenny, Dowell and Holgate. I'm sometimes amazed at how so many of our fan write off our young kids if they aren't good enough to be regular starters by the time they're 20.

 

[Barnfred 55]

It's an opinion/prediction.

Do you think the comparisons with Kane are justified?

Comparisons to Kane at the same age, yes certainly. Assumptions that he will develop into as good a player as Kane has since become, no not at all. But I haven't seen many people say that. All they are saying is that nobody knows for certain that he won't.

Personally I think if he becomes half the player Kane is then he's probably still worth keeping as a squad player.

 

[Barnfred 55]

It’s not a one off tho , remeber people saying barkley was better than scholes, Lampard and Gerard at the same age?

Also read on here that Dominic royle sharp Kane Lewin , is in the top 6 players in the World in his position for his age.

Mate. The premier league is either the best or second best league in the world. Correct?

There is arguably only three strikers his age or younger better than him in our league. Rashford, Jesus and Richarlison. There are also the obvious candidates like MBappe and Dembele who are on a different level to him. And there are probably also a handful of other strikers his age getting regular football at a top level league who can be compared to him.

England is now the top ranked nation at U21 level, and Dominic is first choice striker for them, or at least always starts whenever they play a competitive match.
I've asked you previously to name the strikers of the same age who are better then him, and to be compared properly they need to be doing it in a similar standard league, but you have never come up with a list. But you continually mock this statement like it's some sort of big joke.

Put up or shut up comes to mind.lol

 

[little elfin]

Winning youth world cup means nothing.
Some people take it too seriously because England won nothing for long time.
Do you know how many players who won world cup in youth level for Brazil that cannot make it to the top?
Plenty.

 

[Barnfred 55]

It's not impossible in the same way that it's not impossible for Everton to finish in the top 3 this season, but it's not going to happen.

So it is possible then. Unlikely, but possible.

 

[Tel001]

Mate. The premier league is either the best or second best league in the world. Correct?

There is arguably only three strikers his age or younger better than him in our league. Rashford, Jesus and Richarlison. There are also the obvious candidates like MBappe and Dembele who are on a different level to him. And there are probably also a handful of other strikers his age getting regular football at a top level league who can be compared to him.

England is now the top ranked nation at U21 level, and Dominic is first choice striker for them, or at least always starts whenever they play a competitive match.
I've asked you previously to name the strikers of the same age who are better then him, and to be compared properly they need to be doing it in a similar standard league, but you have never come up with a list. But you continually mock this statement like it's some sort of big joke.

Put up or shut up comes to mind.lol

I don’t watch othe leagues or indeed many other teams but I do watch DRKSL and if he is in the top 5-6 strikers in the world 21 or under , then footballing standards have dropped beyond my comprehension. He can’t finish ffs , he isn’t skillfull, his decision making is poor, he can’t shoot from distance and he can’t take people on dispite being the fastest player in the league apparently. Other than being a tremendous athlete ( which helps at u21 level and all the age groups below) he doesn’t have anything that catches my eye ? Literally nothing

 

[Barnfred 55]

I don’t watch othe leagues or indeed many other teams but I do watch DRKSL and if he is in the top 5-6 strikers in the world 21 or under , then footballing standards have dropped beyond my comprehension. He can’t finish ffs , he isn’t skillfull, his decision making is poor, he can’t shoot from distance and he can’t take people on dispite being the fastest player in the league apparently. Other than being a tremendous athlete ( which helps at u21 level and all the age groups below) he doesn’t have anything that catches my eye ? Literally nothing

That could have been a copy/paste of your last response Tel. All about your low opinion of him which we all know about, and absolutely zero substance to justify mocking the said statement.

 

[McBain]

I don’t watch othe leagues or indeed many other teams but I do watch DRKSL and if he is in the top 5-6 strikers in the world 21 or under , then footballing standards have dropped beyond my comprehension. He can’t finish ffs , he isn’t skillfull, his decision making is poor, he can’t shoot from distance and he can’t take people on dispite being the fastest player in the league apparently. Other than being a tremendous athlete ( which helps at u21 level and all the age groups below) he doesn’t have anything that catches my eye ? Literally nothing

I think analysing football is beyond all our comprehension. Theres no formula that makes a player - it happens or it doesn’t and he’s got the right ingredients. Just sit back and enjoy the season T.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Winning youth world cup means nothing.
Some people take it too seriously because England won nothing for long time.
Do you know how many players who won world cup in youth level for Brazil that cannot make it to the top?
Plenty.

Nobody has said it does guarantee anything. But Dominic is only 21 so all we can really do at the moment is compare him to other people his age. Over 90% of professional footballers don't reach their prime until their mid twenties. A small number reach it earlier and don't improve and some are already top drawer at 21 and go on to become world class. Hopefully we have one of those in Richarlison.

The vast majority of payers at 21 are nowhere near Premier standard. Dominic has proved that he can hack it at this level, albeit not yet being good enough to be a regular starter in a team with ambitions of champions league. He may never reach that level.

But people who expect him to be at that level at the age of 21, and assume he will never improve, do not understand football.

 

[EFC78]

Nobody has said it does guarantee anything. But Dominic is only 21 so all we can really do at the moment is compare him to other people his age. Over 90% of professional footballers don't reach their prime until their mid twenties. A small number reach it earlier and don't improve and some are already top drawer at 21 and go on to become world class. Hopefully we have one of those in Richarlison.

The vast majority of payers at 21 are nowhere near Premier standard. Dominic has proved that he can hack it at this level, albeit not yet being good enough to be a regular starter in a team with ambitions of champions league. He may never reach that level.

But people who expect him to be at that level at the age of 21, and assume he will never improve, do not understand football.

I agree with the majority of that. But I do think he needs to start showing more. I also think that of players like Rashford too.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I agree with the majority of that. But I do think he needs to start showing more. I also think that of players like Rashford too.

I'd love him to show a lot more too. I think he has improved steadily since when he first came into the team, but with the game time he has had I would have hoped for a bit more improvement than what he's actually shown. It was around this time that Kane burst onto the scene in a way I've never seen with anybody else. So I think it's fair to say that is very unlikely to happen with Dominic. But he still has time on his side so I'm not exactly concerned about him.

 

[gonetomorrow]

Interesting comparison. His legs are very like Kane's. He needs more upper body strength though.
And he must develop a killer shot from the edge of the box.

 

[EFCPaul]

Winning youth world cup means nothing.
Some people take it too seriously because England won nothing for long time.
Do you know how many players who won world cup in youth level for Brazil that cannot make it to the top?
Plenty.

Tend to agree. Who did they beat in the final, Venezuela? Where is their senior team ranked in the world, somewhere in the wilderness surely? Have they ever even played in a proper World Cup?

Trophies at youth level don't really mean much, only thing they're really good for is fostering a winning mentality in players from an early age which will serve them very well in the later careers if they make it to play for a top club. They're hardly hooks for someone to hang their hat on though as proof of their ability.