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2021/22 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

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It depends what happens with the money. If we use it to buy 2-3 players who can help us then it is a good sale.

What we can agree on is this.

We have spend money badly. But if its 60m, (and I know wages come into things) but on fees we could get Gray, Broja and Dennis for a similar ish price.
 
Wouldn’t agree with you there mate, think Jesus is a much better player than Dom, I’m tipping him big time next season, City really under-utilised him, jobbing him around the squad, think he will take of next season and Arsenal got a steal.

Footballs about opinions really. I havent seen it with Jesus yet. Not convinced at all.

Theres also a case, given that Nunez has played outside a top 5 league, and Vlahovic has only done it in Serie A (and honestly has a similar record at Juventus to Kean) he is a better option as things stand.

Before his injury DCL had 13 and 16 goals in the previous 2 seasons. To me that carries as much weight as 7 & 17 in Serie A or 26 & 6 in Portugal.

Those lads have gone for 73m and 75m respectively. I can see why DCL might be an option for teams at 60m, IF you feel hes over his injuries.
 

A fully fit Calvert Lewin is a lot better than Jesus IMO.

Haalands real fee is a lot higher mate, 100m plus and huge wages. Nunez has gone for 75m and.has had 1 good season in a league outside of the top 5 leagues. Vlahovic is in Italy, right? Again not much history if their strikers coming in and doing well here.

I can see why Newcastle would be stupid enough to pay 60m. They paid 25m for Chris Wood.

Crucially none of the above would go to Newcastle as well. DCL will.

We should obviously take the 60m offer and run. Theres no guarantee he can get fully fit again.

I was thinking the other day though, how stupid Arsenal were to give for Jesus over DCL. DCL gives you a lot more.
Yeah but when did they buy Wood, January as an overpayment to stay up,not a chance they pay much for DCL, our situation goes against us too much
 
Yeah but when did they buy Wood, January as an overpayment to stay up,not a chance they pay much for DCL, our situation goes against us too much

Well its shown they are willing to pay for players to come.

Our situation, re FFP is now resolved, for 12 months at least. We are negotiating in a much better position.

If anything our position is also desperate, as he would be key to stay up.
 
Well a few things.

Wood is 30, DCL is 25. And as you say hes an upgrade. So he is going to be more, probably substantially more than Wood.

On some reports, the total fee for Richarlison is 70m. You had him valued at significantly lower than that. I think you're making the same mistake again here.

We can all argue about who is worth what. For me, Jesus would not have scored the goals DCL would have done in our team over recent years. The caveat for DCL is his fitness. If he hadnt had serious injury, I'd be wanting more than that. But given his injury, I can see why we would want 60m ish and I can also see why Newcastle would pay it.

He is very similar stylistically to Wood, younger, more rounded and better and would go there. There is a premium for that.

I agree he should and would obviously be more than Wood. But he is not an elite striker. His value is driven by his performances 2 years ago and will be affected by his big injury last year.

£30-£40m and teams would be interested. Any more than that and there is better value out there.

Richarlison was sold for £50m, which is around the figure I said when the rumours first started. Richarlison is better than Dom and there is no world where Dom goes for more.
 

Footballs about opinions really. I havent seen it with Jesus yet. Not convinced at all.

Theres also a case, given that Nunez has played outside a top 5 league, and Vlahovic has only done it in Serie A (and honestly has a similar record at Juventus to Kean) he is a better option as things stand.

Before his injury DCL had 13 and 16 goals in the previous 2 seasons. To me that carries as much weight as 7 & 17 in Serie A or 26 & 6 in Portugal.

Those lads have gone for 73m and 75m respectively. I can see why DCL might be an option for teams at 60m, IF you feel hes over his injuries.

Without question mate. Always liked Jesus, think City was a poor move for him overall, he’s better than he got and was used there, I’m really tipping him next year, we‘l see. Mad that it seems City need to raise these fund to accommodate Halland.

He’s worth about 70 mill to us. But not sure he’s a 70 mill pound player, he’s a good player, but not at that elite striking level or a killer like say a Vardy, or a Kane, one chance and it’s goodnight, certainly in two. Dom misses to much with ball at feet, unless it’s coming across in the box.

Personaly I’d keep him, because it’s the hardest thing in the league to get a striker capable of double digits and we have priorities elsewhere and seems unnecessarily risky after Richarlison. But I’d be open minded next summer. He’s good at dimensions, but limited at others, but he offers a good bit, just not at that elite level. If we were 5/6th he’s at that level.

Part of me is tempted, because the only manager to get a tune out of him was Carlo, Silva got some performances out of him but not consistently goals. So if he struggles next season under Frank I’d be very interested in cashing our chips, I actually think it could be a big season ahead of him career wise.
 
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I agree he should and would obviously be more than Wood. But he is not an elite striker. His value is driven by his performances 2 years ago and will be affected by his big injury last year.

£30-£40m and teams would be interested. Any more than that and there is better value out there.

Richarlison was sold for £50m, which is around the figure I said when the rumours first started. Richarlison is better than Dom and there is no world where Dom goes for more.

On Richarlison, there are a range of fees, with 50m being the very lowest end. Sure someone said 55m down recently. The range seems to be between 50-70m. That was above what you seemed to be saying.

On the 2nd point, I'm not entirely sure that's true. His record isnt as good over the last few years. They are different players. For Newcastle and what they want, Dom would be the better fit IMO.

I probably peg his value similar to you. Probably more 35-40 ish. But there are multiple factors that dictate a sale, including value to a buyer, and need to a seller. Teams will often overpay.

I agree he has lost a lot of value last year because of injuries. Last year there was talk of a 75m ish from Arsenal. The question is, how much has his value been hit with injury.

I agree hes not elite, but nobody elite or close to is going to Newcastle. He knows the league, fits their style and is a younger, better upgrade on what they have, who would go. They will try and hard ball, but honestly, when you have that cash, you probably face pressure to spend it. I think it would be an error to pay 60m from them, but it's the sort of error sides plush with cash, but no history tend to make. City did similar with Lescott.

As a final aside, we dont need to sell, so are obviously not going to entertain at value bids of say 35-40m. There would have to be an overpay to get us interested. The question is how much premium could we effectively get away with.
 

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