2022/23 Dominic Calvert-Lewin

[Parker]

You have just listed two players who the respective clubs massively overpaid for.

Newcastle just signed isak for about 60m who's younger, fitter and looks far superior in every way imaginable.

A fit dcl is a handful and a half decent premier striker but 60m ffs, he hasn't hadn't been any good for 2 and a half years.

I'm confident he could go and spearhead that Arsenal attack. The only issue is his fitness and that, as well as his performances, have been held back due to the horrific management of him because of the dysfunction at the club. Always rushed back to play in a system that makes no sense for managers who are crap. No surprise that in his only full season under a proper manager with proper players around him he scores nearly 1 in 2 over 30+ games in the league.

Isak is a better footballer I agree, but they're different types of forward. He's also in a team that allows him to flourish. Doms up front battling for floated long balls and running channels for 90 minutes because Dyche doesn't fancy having an actual plan.

 

[mahermi1]

60million?? Seriously.

Was easily that before the constant injuries kicked in yes in my view.

 

[dannyboy]

I'm confident he could go and spearhead that Arsenal attack. The only issue is his fitness and that, as well as his performances, have been held back due to the horrific management of him because of the dysfunction at the club. Always rushed back to play in a system that makes no sense for managers who are crap. No surprise that in his only full season under a proper manager with proper players around him he scores nearly 1 in 2 over 30+ games in the league.

Isak is a better footballer I agree, but they're different types of forward. He's also in a team that allows him to flourish. Doms up front battling for floated long balls and running channels for 90 minutes because Dyche doesn't fancy having an actual plan.

If DCL went to Arsenal he'd be a squad player at best. His overall game just isn't good enough for a top level attack.

 

[mahermi1]

You have just listed two players who the respective clubs massively overpaid for.

Newcastle just signed isak for about 60m who's younger, fitter and looks far superior in every way imaginable.

A fit dcl is a handful and a half decent premier striker but 60m ffs, he hasn't hadn't been any good for 2 and a half years.

English premium, coming towards his peak, England second choice starter behind Kane at the time. The only thing going against St him is his injury record over the last year and a half.

 

[Parker]

If DCL went to Arsenal he'd be a squad player at best. His overall game just isn't good enough for a top level attack.

He'd be a decent rotation option, kind of like Trossard is atm.

I disagree on his overall game though, his link up play is massively underrated.

 

[davek]

No one is buying that feller.

 

[Goodisongang]

I'm confident he could go and spearhead that Arsenal attack. The only issue is his fitness and that, as well as his performances, have been held back due to the horrific management of him because of the dysfunction at the club. Always rushed back to play in a system that makes no sense for managers who are crap. No surprise that in his only full season under a proper manager with proper players around him he scores nearly 1 in 2 over 30+ games in the league.

Isak is a better footballer I agree, but they're different types of forward. He's also in a team that allows him to flourish. Doms up front battling for floated long balls and running channels for 90 minutes because Dyche doesn't fancy having an actual plan.

He wouldn't get anywhere near arsenals team.

Gabriel Jesus is 10x the player DCL is and didn't cost anywhere near 60m

English premium, coming towards his peak, England second choice starter behind Kane at the time. The only thing going against St him is his injury record over the last year and a half.

"England second choice starter" mate that just isn't a thing. He'd be about 6th choice for England, it's more than just his injuries going against him, he's 26 and never had a full consistent season, he's had a good 3/4 months under Carlo then went off the boil, and please decent the season before that as well.

He'd need to have about 3/4 seasons like the Carlo one berore you start thinking 60m and a CL club

 

[dannyboy]

He'd be a decent rotation option, kind of like Trossard is atm.

I disagree on his overall game though, his link up play is massively underrated.

I think he's a good battering room for hopeful punts down the pitch, but in terms of intricate play around the box he is well off the level of those teams at the top.

Definitely would give a team something though if he stayed fit. Huge if.

 

[ElGato]

No one is buying that feller.

I once thought this to be a bonkers statement. A year and a half later and I don't think most teams would touch him with the proverbial barge pole.

I also don't think he can spearhead a proper top 6 attack, his pressing is just non existent. Would be a good player to bring off the bench if you were chasing a game and needed a penalty box player, or protecting a lead and needed someone to hold the ball up and run in behind.

However inarguable that he is a handful for defenders. Unusual in that he has good hold up play but is also a real threat in behind with his movement. We are clearly better off for having him in the team.

Now Dyche has changed his bedsheets let's hope we have a fit and firing Dom for the rest of the season.

 

[davek]

I once thought this to be a bonkers statement. A year and a half later and I don't think most teams would touch him with the proverbial barge pole.

I also don't think he can spearhead a proper top 6 attack, his pressing is just non existent. Would be a good player to bring off the bench if you were chasing a game and needed a penalty box player, or protecting a lead and needed someone to hold the ball up and run in behind.

However inarguable that he is a handful for defenders. Unusual in that he has good hold up play but is also a real threat in behind with his movement. We are clearly better off for having him in the team.

Now Dyche has changed his bedsheets let's hope we have a fit and firing Dom for the rest of the season.

He provides nuisance value in and around the box. He is not a top striker or anything like it.

No one is paying good cash for a player who does that for you 5 games per season.

Utterly laughable the following he gets. It underlines the colllapse of Everton when people value him.

 

[APN_EFC]

He wouldn't get anywhere near arsenals team.

Gabriel Jesus is 10x the player DCL is and didn't cost anywhere near 60m



"England second choice starter" mate that just isn't a thing. He'd be about 6th choice for England, it's more than just his injuries going against him, he's 26 and never had a full consistent season, he's had a good 3/4 months under Carlo then went off the boil, and please decent the season before that as well.

He'd need to have about 3/4 seasons like the Carlo one berore you start thinking 60m and a CL club

I think the way some clubs buy players and the short-term memory loss vs hype of current PL culture, he'd only need 1 season of 20 goals to get a big transfer.

He wouldn't get anywhere near arsenals team.

Gabriel Jesus is 10x the player DCL is and didn't cost anywhere near 60m



"England second choice starter" mate that just isn't a thing. He'd be about 6th choice for England, it's more than just his injuries going against him, he's 26 and never had a full consistent season, he's had a good 3/4 months under Carlo then went off the boil, and please decent the season before that as well.

He'd need to have about 3/4 seasons like the Carlo one berore you start thinking 60m and a CL club

I think he was looking really good in 2020-1 and his overall play (except for finishing, funnily) was really strong. I actually think his finishing has finally started catching up - in 2020 he was getting some scrappy / deflected goals, and then he started scoring less, but with better, cleaner finishes.

Still, nowadays you'll always find a club to spend big on someone like him, when there are few such players around.

I would think one full and tough season (even if in the Championship) would be needed for him to prove his mental & Physical strength, and then he would have either contributed massively to our improvement and / or earned a big transfer.

He's unlucky to have been so badly mismanaged by coaching and medical staff , and plus he had the injuries which are obviously not his fault. and by the way, if you criticise his mental health, well, bigger or better run clubs do work hard on that aspect too and look after players better.

I just hope that cos he's our player, he does have better success for us! I thought his penalty was a much bigger deal than it looked - a lot of pressure on him to score , with his own injury record in the mix too.

 

[Black Belt Jones]

I'm confident he could go and spearhead that Arsenal attack. The only issue is his fitness and that, as well as his performances, have been held back due to the horrific management of him because of the dysfunction at the club. Always rushed back to play in a system that makes no sense for managers who are crap. No surprise that in his only full season under a proper manager with proper players around him he scores nearly 1 in 2 over 30+ games in the league.

You can't compartmentalise fitness in that way - as if it's a separate consideration, or there is any such thing as a good injury prone player. There isn't - it's like saying a player is great, worth 60 million, but he's really slow, or he has a terrible touch. No one would say that.

It's a [Poor language removed] situation for DCL, but if training constitution wasn't important there are posters on this site who could be professional footballers.

 

[mahermi1]

He wouldn't get anywhere near arsenals team.

Gabriel Jesus is 10x the player DCL is and didn't cost anywhere near 60m



"England second choice starter" mate that just isn't a thing. He'd be about 6th choice for England, it's more than just his injuries going against him, he's 26 and never had a full consistent season, he's had a good 3/4 months under Carlo then went off the boil, and please decent the season before that as well.

He'd need to have about 3/4 seasons like the Carlo one berore you start thinking 60m and a CL club

Yes now he would if that, but two years ago pre injuries he was. I'm talking about his worth back then and I'm trying to state why, if you don't agree fine, but he has been taken over by quite a few after his injuries took their toll.
But back then he gave improvement season on season, scored goals not many at first, but better each year, he is tall, excellent in the air he then had incredible work rate, led the line well had very good pace. Easily worth £60m then, today yes different story, but that is due to prolific injuries nothing else.

 

[mahermi1]

Gabriel Jesus was an amazing bargain, didn't know his contract situation, but City if I remember right had just bought Halland and he was never going to play, he wanted out, but City definitely sold him too cheap.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Gabriel Jesus was an amazing bargain, didn't know his contract situation, but City if I remember right had just bought Halland and he was never going to play, he wanted out, but City definitely sold him too cheap.

45 mil for a player they don't need is alright in reality, they even profited. It's only us that can't actually negotiate so it looks weird from the side.

Also Jesus is a great player but is inconsistent - if he manages to keep it up then yeah, City in hindsight let him go too easily. Big if though.