Eva Carneiro leaves Chelsea

[marty mcfly]

Are you really comparing giving the ball back to a player after it goes out to a potential medical emergency?

The fact that Hazard was playacting and forced the ref to call them on is the problem area that Mourinho should have publicly called out not the fact that both her and the physio were simply doing their job.

If Hazard was really injured Mourinho would have had to back track massively, just because Hazard was not actually injured (and only Mourinho seemed to know this at the time) should not detract from the fact that he is in the wrong.

Imagine if Duffy had his collision in a full competitive match and the manager stopped the physio/doctor coming on, them coming on quickly saved his life. Extreme case but you cannot be too careful with all the sporting related deaths that are seemngly innocous at the time.

I'm not saying he is right. What I am saying is.

"Plus whether you agree with him or not it is irrelevant. He's the boss and has every right to vent at her for something he believed she did wrong."

 

[longers]

She is milking this to the heavens and back as far as i'm concerned, and is being truly unprofessional. She, along with physio Jon Hearn, were called out for their role in the incident, and the aftermath has seen numerous articles, A facebook explanation, A twitter Explanation and multiple guilt trips on Mourinho, what annoys me here is, all of the media reports, revolve around Eva Carneiro, and why? Because shes played the victim card..

Dunno what coverage you've been reading or watching but she's stayed out of the limelight for pretty much the entire saga other than a quick 'thanks for the support' post on social media. No idea why you think she is milking this, seems like complete opposite tbh.

 

[wandyr79]

I'm not saying he is right. What I am saying is.

"Plus whether you agree with him or not it is irrelevant. He's the boss and has every right to vent at her for something he believed she did wrong."

So if I collapse in work (after all we are talking about medical issues here, not simply taking a longer lunch than I should or a footballer turning up for training late) when I should be completing an important project and he is angry at me for not comleting the project and vents his anger we should all just get on with it because he is the boss and he has a right to vent at me for not doing my work.

I knew somebody who was bollocked and punished in work for not turning up for work on one day and not calling in, it was on the day of the London bombings, but hey he is the boss and we should just accept it because he is the boss. Another mate told me a story of a one armed girl who was bollocked for not keeping within the suggsted call length (call centre) because she could not type fast enough but hey he was the boss and should not be called up for it.

 

[TheBlueGibbon]

And my point was that it doesn't matter if it's a law of the game. The laws are broken and stretched all the time to achieve victory. There is an argument that they shouldn't be but that is up to the manager. e.g. Some managers will berate players in public for diving. Others will not. Ultimately it's down to the manager and the players and staff need to fall into line with his wishes.

The refereee failing to enforce the rule on medical treatments leaves the referee, the doctor and the FA open to lawsuits based on negligence, as the FA, the doctor and the referee have a duty of care towards any injured player. It's fairly well established in English law that if the referee fails to follow the laws of the game, leading to the injury of a player, then the referee has neglected their duty of care to the player. This would also apply if the referee didn't enforce the rule here.

 

[davids]

So she should. She's got him bang to rights as well.

Not sure the sexism card is the right play though as there will be about ten employment laws she could utilise too.

Mourinho should have apologised immediately when he realised he was wrong and, to be blunt, so should have Eden Hazard for his playacting.

I agree the sexism card is not the way to go.But has he broken any employment laws? From the limited bits I read he just doesn't want her pitch side.He didn't suspend or sack her.A bit like your boss deciding that rather than you work on reception,he'd prefer you worked at an inside office?

 

[wandyr79]

I agree the sexism card is not the way to go.But has he broken any employment laws? From the limited bits I read he just doesn't want her pitch side.He didn't suspend or sack her.A bit like your boss deciding that rather than you work on reception,he'd prefer you worked at an inside office?

It is still unfair treatment so she has a case for that just not unfair dismissal. If he had noticed first then stopped them he could have potentially been in even more trouble.

 

[Baines' left foot]

It happens all the time in football.

Doesn't make it right.

 

[Tubey]

Don't be so naive. That's like saying the ball boy needs to give the ball back in the last minutes of the game when the away side are chasing a goal or that a player shouldn't go down when touched in the penalty area.

The other thing is you are arguing tactics with a manager who has one of the best records in history.

Plus whether you agree with him or not it is irrelevant. He's the boss and has every right to vent at her for something he believed she did wrong.

You are simply incredibly incorrect with that entire post. It's quite remarkable in its' wrongness actually.

 

[Donald Twain]

This thread's got it all!

 

[Goat]

Heard this earlier. That will teach your da to sell our kid John Stones to Chelsea. Booooooo

You keep saying this, yet if you paid attention at no point did I wish to sell him.

Please refrain from posting lies.

 

[Fuleco]

This thread's got it all!

Needs some cats imo.

 

[Donald Twain]

Needs some cats imo.

Agreed @tommye

 

[tommye]

Agreed @tommye

 

[Donald Twain]

 

[marty mcfly]

So if I collapse in work (after all we are talking about medical issues here, not simply taking a longer lunch than I should or a footballer turning up for training late) when I should be completing an important project and he is angry at me for not comleting the project and vents his anger we should all just get on with it because he is the boss and he has a right to vent at me for not doing my work.

I knew somebody who was bollocked and punished in work for not turning up for work on one day and not calling in, it was on the day of the London bombings, but hey he is the boss and we should just accept it because he is the boss. Another mate told me a story of a one armed girl who was bollocked for not keeping within the suggsted call length (call centre) because she could not type fast enough but hey he was the boss and should not be called up for it.

It's not just a another workplace.

In the past bosses used to act like this all the time but with more women joining the workforce the rules around employment changed and bosses had to change their behavior accordingly.

Which brings me back to my original point.

"Frankly this whole case will set back equality decades because it shows in a male competitive environment hiring women is a risk."

Football clubs will be at a competitive disadvantage if they hire women because they will have to tone down this behavior. They will either accept that or simply avoid hiring women.