Eva Carneiro leaves Chelsea

[marty mcfly]

The refereee failing to enforce the rule on medical treatments leaves the referee, the doctor and the FA open to lawsuits based on negligence, as the FA, the doctor and the referee have a duty of care towards any injured player. It's fairly well established in English law that if the referee fails to follow the laws of the game, leading to the injury of a player, then the referee has neglected their duty of care to the player. This would also apply if the referee didn't enforce the rule here.

That's still a judgement call.

 

[marty mcfly]

Doesn't make it right.

All's fair in love and war and football or any competitive male sport is as close to war as we get without killing people.

 

[rascal]

This forum needs more Snow White

 

[LinekersLegs]

I agree the sexism card is not the way to go.But has he broken any employment laws? From the limited bits I read he just doesn't want her pitch side.He didn't suspend or sack her.A bit like your boss deciding that rather than you work on reception,he'd prefer you worked at an inside office?

Neither of the medical team can attend matches, training or the team hotel which makes the treatment of injuries in their immediate aftermath (the primary part of their role) impossible to do.

A closer anology would be to ban a paramedic from travelling in an ambulance.

 

[RAFUH]

I agree the sexism card is not the way to go.But has he broken any employment laws? From the limited bits I read he just doesn't want her pitch side.He didn't suspend or sack her.A bit like your boss deciding that rather than you work on reception,he'd prefer you worked at an inside office?

I don't now how you'd define suspend, but she's not allowed on the bench, in team hotels or at the training ground. If it was a manager under these restrictions, how would it be seen as anything other than a demotion or suspension.

 

[RAFUH]

Neither of the medical team can attend matches, training or the team hotel which makes the treatment of injuries in their immediate aftermath (the primary part of their role) impossible to do.

A closer anology would be to ban a paramedic from travelling in an ambulance.

Beat me to it.

 

[marty mcfly]

Neither of the medical team can attend matches, training or the team hotel which makes the treatment of injuries in their immediate aftermath (the primary part of their role) impossible to do.

A closer anology would be to ban a paramedic from travelling in an ambulance.

Again you can't compare the real world to the football world especially during the match.

That's like saying a player has an unfair dismissal case because he was reprimanded and told to train with the U21s.

 

[marty mcfly]

I don't now how you'd define suspend, but she's not allowed on the bench, in team hotels or at the training ground. If it was a manager under these restrictions, how would it be seen as anything other than a demotion or suspension.

If it was a player then you would see it as being dropped from the team. Are we really saying a football manager now doesn't have the right to select his bench because of employment laws.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Again you can't compare the real world to the football world especially during the match.

That's like saying a player has an unfair dismissal case because he was reprimanded and told to train with the U21s.

It is nothing like that at all, not least because there are genuine health and safety issues that are at the heart of this.

 

[LinekersLegs]

If it was a player then you would see it as being dropped from the team. Are we really saying a football manager now doesn't have the right to select his bench because of employment laws.

No, but he cannot effectively sack people for following their mandatory medical obligations without making himself and his club liable to a lawsuit.

 

[marty mcfly]

It is nothing like that at all, not least because there are genuine health and safety issues that are at the heart of this.

Seriously?

We are talking about a game where managers send players back on to the pitch after they've had a concussion, pulled muscles or are playing with other minor or even major injuries etc
About a game where managers and players intentionally kick players to slow other players or the whole game down.
Where players break bones from other players going in too hard.
Where some players intentionally set out to hurt each other and at the end of the game give a handshake and a nod of respect (Suarez and Mirallas).

 

[tsubaki]

Football clubs will be at a competitive disadvantage if they hire women because they will have to tone down this behavior. They will either accept that or simply avoid hiring women.

Apologies for repeating an earlier post on the original Dr. Eva thread, but it seems worth repeating that since Carneiro became their first team doctor they have won the Champions League, the Premier League, the UEFA Cup, the League Cup and the FA Cup. If she did have an impact on their behaviour, it was for the better.

The rest of your points are nonsense. Mou has no defence for this, and hasn't since the ref beckoned her on twice.

 

[marty mcfly]

No, but he cannot effectively sack people for following their mandatory medical obligations without making himself and his club liable to a lawsuit.

I'm not saying she doesn't have a case. It will actually be a very interesting one from a legal perspective but she's wrong maybe not legally but she's wrong.

 

[TheBlueGibbon]

I'm not saying he is right. What I am saying is.

"Plus whether you agree with him or not it is irrelevant. He's the boss and has every right to vent at her for something he believed she did wrong."

I'm not saying she doesn't have a case. It will actually be a very interesting one from a legal perspective but she's wrong maybe not legally but she's wrong.

 

[roydo]