Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

[FTY]

To be fair to Thelwell (and im on record as saying his position is untenable):

He was on a hiding to nothing since Dyche left, in my opinion he spent months planning for a window, for Dyches tactics of sitting back and playing on the break, which is why we were prob a bit down the road wit Nuamah, then Moyes came in and said we aren't doing that anymore.

The fact that, that actually happened means his position ins untenable, but i do think the rug was pulled out from under him from a planning point of view, given the timing and circumstances.

A good DOF prepares for both outcomes

Not like Dyche looked nailed on to be here til January and beyond

 

[Neiler]

A good DOF prepares for both outcomes

Not like Dyche looked nailed on to be here til January and beyond

Personally mate i think a DOF here for the long term, does what they want in terms of the club strategy regardless of who the manager is - as the manager will always change - but the strategy is the constant singularity.

The fact he hasn't or cant makes his potion untenable in my opinion.

Overall i think there are big question marks about how we apply the DOF role here, that we have never overcome - maybe we never will.

 

[Paul Rideout]

So which players in these positions that got a move would you of brought in?

Oh yeah you're right, what a terrible oversight from myself not being able to name specific names with the breadth of in depth knowledge of the international loans market - there, of course (how obvious), isn't a single forward in the whole of non-domestic football that would have been available to come on loan and provide adequate cover whilst we have one recognised fit striker.

got it.

 

[FTY]

Personally mate i think a DOF here for the long term, does what they want in terms of the club strategy regardless of who the manager is - as the manager will always change - but the strategy is the constant singularity.

The fact he hasn't or cant makes his potion untenable in my opinion.

Overall i think there are big question marks about how we apply the DOF role here, that we have never overcome - maybe we never will.

Yeah mate that's what a DOF should be but it's not here

We've had 3 now with the job title ''director of football'' with the job role of ''head of recruitment''

At least that's what it seems like, obvs don't know what goes on behind the scenes

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

Does this make the Friedkins ‘carpetbaggers’?

 

[Simon Buttle]

Yeah mate that's what a DOF should be but it's not here

We've had 3 now with the job title ''director of football'' with the job role of ''head of recruitment''

At least that's what it seems like, obvs don't know what goes on behind the scenes

No that's just fans who don't understand what the role is tbh. Dan Purdy is head of recruitment, he leads a team of scouts/analysts in actually finding the players and Thelwell would sign off on everything.

 

[Lanolin]

Yeah mate that's what a DOF should be but it's not here

We've had 3 now with the job title ''director of football'' with the job role of ''head of recruitment''

At least that's what it seems like, obvs don't know what goes on behind the scenes

I feel like it's more that fans act as if they're just head of recruitment. It seems quite clear that thelwell in particular has had a much more wide ranging remit than that, but people always act as if all he has to do is point out players that he likes.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

Also weird how he says Evertonians are “congratulating” the club on the window just because they’re not pissing the bed.

The reality is, the clubs still hungover from PSR issues, probably comfortably safe from relegation & we’re operating in a month that’s historically difficult.

It’s been so bad for ages fans have become comfortable in misery, some of them wanted Dyche to stay ffs

Yeah, I wasn't happy with the Moyes appointment and nor am I with the outcome of the window, but easy enough to see why we made those choices and so far the former is paying off.

To be fair to Dave, though, he is a career WUM. You can't wind anybody up unless you first create a straw man who holds a diametrically opposite opinion to yours, and then pretend that those are the only two options available.

 

[Neiler]

Yeah mate that's what a DOF should be but it's not here

We've had 3 now with the job title ''director of football'' with the job role of ''head of recruitment''

At least that's what it seems like, obvs don't know what goes on behind the scenes

I think its less about the title and more about the application and governance mate.

You look at some clubs like Chelsea and Spurs and the manager doesn't have a clue what's going on with transfers its all done by the DOF, arguably a lot of other clubs.

Other clubs employ a hybrid model, maybe Villa and Arsenal. I think a natural tension exists between a manager and a DOF in recruitment, but i dont necessarily see that as a bad thing, if managed well that natural tension even conflict can provide quality assurance and maybe that's what we have seen this window here.

I think our problem with the role have been many, poor governance, managers or owners having to much authority and the role becoming a bit of Patsey role with no real autonomy or clarity in terms of remit or else that flips and flops. Clearly our chop change approach to managers, limits and being in general a basket case hasn't helped the role.

In truth we've never really applied it properly or if we have, we reneged on it and rebooted it when we appointed a new manager. In Thelwell case i think he's just an admin middle manager now.

If we are to recover as a football, we need to be clear on the role, the remit and what we want from the role.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

Personally mate i think a DOF here for the long term, does what they want in terms of the club strategy regardless of who the manager is - as the manager will always change - but the strategy is the constant singularity.

The fact he hasn't or cant makes his potion untenable in my opinion.

Overall i think there are big question marks about how we apply the DOF role here, that we have never overcome - maybe we never will.

The optimistic view is that he has been very accommodating with the new manager, in order to provide the basis for a fruitful working relationship going forward.

The likely reality, as you say, is that he took a "sod this, I'm off; do what you like" approach and we'll have someone else in by Summer.

 

[Frenk]

Does this make the Friedkins ‘carpetbaggers’?

Or it could mean they have their heads screwed on. They assessed the situation and thought we are good until the summer when the real rebuild can begin uninhibited.

 

[Terrarian]

So City spent another £175m, I mean what's the 'kin point. I wish they had joined a super league instead of blatantly taking the piss out of the Premier league, meanwhile us "smaller" clubs get punished despite hardly spending a bean over the last few years.

This leagues a mess, it has created sub divisions within the division, where clubs like ours have been forced to stay in our lane, so to speak.

 

[FTY]

No that's just fans who don't understand what the role is tbh. Dan Purdy is head of recruitment, he leads a team of scouts/analysts in actually finding the players and Thelwell would sign off on everything.

Yeah I know that but I think here their role is a lot more limited than it should be, or at least has been

I definitely think that's all that thicko Moshiri thought a DOF was though, hence hiring Leicester's head scout for the role

 

[Simon Buttle]

Yeah I know that but I think here their role is a lot more limited than it should be, or at least has been

I definitely think that's all that thicko Moshiri thought a DOF was though, hence hiring Leicester's head scout for the role

Agree 100% I don't think any of the DoF's have ever been allowed to run the show properly.

 

[COYBL25]

Does this make the Friedkins ‘carpetbaggers’?

Spivs seems to be the preferred terminology at the moment, although that can be subject to change at a moments notice.