Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

[formerly manx toffee]

Errrm Pickford wasn't bought for peanuts mate we spent 30m on him which was a club record fee for us

He has been worth every penny and more

 

[whiteshadow]

Everyone saying we didn’t need any new signings in January - we got, Beto, lindyhop and myko….

Shambles

Out the cup and probs lose the last derby at goodison, yet some creatures were suggesting Moyes had made us world beaters

Foools

Not seen anyone imply that.

He's done about as a good a job as we could have hoped for since he came in.

The priority was staying in the Premier league. We should have enough to do that.

Moyes didn't see any point in throwing money away in January on overpriced, mediocre targets when he can spend it in the summer on players he really wants.

He's made the right decision.

 

[whiteshadow]

It's a balance and I'd always argue that if you can do something now to help, that's preferable to waiting.

That holds true if you have as much chance of buying the players you want at good prices in January as the summer. Neither is true though.

We'd end up buying players that aren't first choice targets at higher prices.

 

[The Binman]

I dont know mate, I posted our loses last week.

The last 2 years have been "ok", but the 3rd year which goes off this summer the loss was pretty big.

We still have no idea on our latest accounts, so I honestly cant tell you what the figures are.

Whilst our spending has been meagre on players, our wage bill was disgusting, we lost major money over Ukraine.

In short, I cant answer your question, I just suspect things will be better in the Summer.

sounds good, and hear what you say!!! Agree about the wagebill ... it was laughable!!! Hopefully at the end of the rainbow (Summer) things will be much better!!!

 

[FTY]

How much would Celtic want for Kuhn? Be perfect for us on the right

 

[bluestevon]

If you set the level we need to be aiming at as the first stage of rebuilding being where Newcastle have reached then the level of sustained investment is huge.

Once the head choppers took over the horse punchers they invested 130m pretty much in January.
Following season 185m
One after that 148m

7 players visiting nite than 37m each (Tonali, Barnes, Livramento, Isak, Gordon, Botman, Guimaraes).

First January they kinda besides for Guimaraes threw most of that money on buying veteran players to keep them up and stabilise them, but the spending after has nearly entirely been focused on n players who are instant big upgrades on those players.

That's the best part of 400m quid spent focused on younger players still not at their peak over 2 seasons.

Shows the monumental task and amount of funding required for TFG to get the club even to the level of a Newcastle...

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

How is this possible, have we not been in credit for something like 5yrs now? Or is this the stadium cost?

And this isnt to argue with you, but to understand how it can be so tight still?

Those net spend figures people are posting relate to transfers only.

We’re getting a handle on our wages as a % of turnover now but they were very, very bad until recently and we were making chunky losses in the accounts even after making net gains in terms of transfer activity.

A lot of it will have been down to servicing debt, too, which won’t be (anywhere near as much of) an issue after this accounting period ending 30th June.

 

[Yankfootball1]

I’ve long said we should do this.

Look at the best deals we’ve had previously.

Coleman Baines Jagielka Lescott Stones Braithwaite Calvert Lewin, Pickford all bought for peanuts and sold/could be/could have been sold for huge sums.

Even our other good signings Gueye Richarlison Lukaku Cahill Ndiaye all were playing/or recently playing in English football.

Quite frankly it were scouting players abroad why would they come to Everton? If there’s an about from any other club in CL football we’ve immediately lost out. It’s difficult for work permit reasons, location reasons, squad integration reasons. It’s obviously not impossible but it’s just more difficult.

You look at some of the good players round the British and Irish squads since Moyes left though. Could we not have offered Maddison football before Leicester did, might Chilwell have ended up here, or Toney, or Vardy, what if we’d offered big money for Kane when he was sat on Millwall and Leicester’s bench before Pochettino gave him a shot. Might we have taken chances on Robertson Maguire Mcginn etc.

There’ll be too players coming out of club’s academies now who can’t get in first teams of top 6 squads. There’ll be top talent coming out of the championship or lower leagues. We should be there with the right number in the offer giving them first team football and getting them here before they end up going somewhere else and exploding in value.

I’d much rather we did this than spend our time scouting Brazil Portugal Spain Argentina etc. as what has that ever resulted in for the club? A few kids who came and left without making a difference.

Get the scouts covering every blade of grass across the UK and Ireland and make sure we get the next John Stones and Branthwaite. In an era when Real Madrid are buying up teenagers like Vinicius Rodrygo Endrick before they’ve barely broken into senior teams in Brazil it shows there’s almost zero point competing over there.

If we are buying for 3 years down the line I agree, otherwise I would look at foreign leagues, young talent producing in the top division that fits the way we want to play. If we are buying someone to come in and help right away, I think the value is much harder to find, and may not be in our budget right away given the overhaul we all believe is needed.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

Everyone saying we didn’t need any new signings in January - we got, Beto, lindyhop and myko….

Shambles

Out the cup and probs lose the last derby at goodison, yet some creatures were suggesting Moyes had made us world beaters

Foools

I don’t think anybody was saying we didn’t need new signings, simply that January is a notoriously tough time to identify and bring them in on good VFM deals.

Absolutely nobody suggested Moyes had made us world beaters, just pointed out the almost immediate improvement in style and results from a squad that many said no manager could do a better job with than Dyche.

If we end the season comfortably having survived, what difference will it really make to have gone out of the FA Cup not having won it for the 30th time in a row, or to have lost to a local rival that is exponentially better than us? People want to assign this extra meaning to these “last ever at Goodison” games as if a different result would immediately make up for the massive levels of crap that have been served up there for decades.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Not seen anyone imply that.

He's done about as a good a job as we could have hoped for since he came in.

The priority was staying in the Premier league. We should have enough to do that.

Moyes didn't see any point in throwing money away in January on overpriced, mediocre targets when he can spend it in the summer on players he really wants.

He's made the right decision.

Yes but, as a result, we had young at left back, awful Lindstrom and even worse beto - we are now out of the cup and probs lose the last derby at Goodsion - we needed better players and failed to get them. It is a shame that is all, another season written off.

 

[davek]

That holds true if you have as much chance of buying the players you want at good prices in January as the summer. Neither is true though.

We'd end up buying players that aren't first choice targets at higher prices.

How do you know that?

Nonsense. Utter nonsense.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I don’t think anybody was saying we didn’t need new signings, simply that January is a notoriously tough time to identify and bring them in on good VFM deals.

Absolutely nobody suggested Moyes had made us world beaters, just pointed out the almost immediate improvement in style and results from a squad that many said no manager could do a better job with than Dyche.

If we end the season comfortably having survived, what difference will it really make to have gone out of the FA Cup not having won it for the 30th time in a row, or to have lost to a local rival that is exponentially better than us? People want to assign this extra meaning to these “last ever at Goodison” games as if a different result would immediately make up for the massive levels of crap that have been served up there for decades.

Honestly, look back on here, after we beat Brighton and Leicester people on here were saying that we are sound just cos Beto and Lindstrom had a good game - was never going to be the case.

 

[Simon Buttle]

If you set the level we need to be aiming at as the first stage of rebuilding being where Newcastle have reached then the level of sustained investment is huge.

Once the head choppers took over the horse punchers they invested 130m pretty much in January.
Following season 185m
One after that 148m

7 players visiting nite than 37m each (Tonali, Barnes, Livramento, Isak, Gordon, Botman, Guimaraes).

First January they kinda besides for Guimaraes threw most of that money on buying veteran players to keep them up and stabilise them, but the spending after has nearly entirely been focused on n players who are instant big upgrades on those players.

That's the best part of 400m quid spent focused on younger players still not at their peak over 2 seasons.

Shows the monumental task and amount of funding required for TFG to get the club even to the level of a Newcastle...

Newcastle have massively overpayed for certain players though Barnes and Livramento are not £40m players, Barnes can barely stay fit half the time. Also spending near £60m on Tonali and not doing any proper research into his background is just lazy, good player no doubt but with something like that hanging over his head he is a £15-20m tops. Botman also another £40m player who can't stay fit whatsoever, I think clubs saw them coming myself and rinsed them on a few of those imo.

 

[whiteshadow]

Yes but, as a result, we had young at left back, awful Lindstrom and even worse beto - we are now out of the cup and probs lose the last derby at Goodsion - we needed better players and failed to get them. It is a shame that is all, another season written off.

Yeah, it is gutting but hopefully we’ll reap the benefits next season.

 

[whiteshadow]

How do you know that?

Nonsense. Utter nonsense.

Everyone knows the availability and value isn’t in the January market, as a rule. You get the odd exception but most teams aren’t willing to sell valued assets until the summer.

Moyes has spoken about this himself.