Everton reopen talks with Sam Allardyce

[matty1878]

Why wouldn't it though? Exactly how far do we have to fall before you think we are in a situation?

What? I already know we're in this situation but it's still no need to be going for fat Sam. Aren't you ashamed?

 

[Abraders]

Sorry I don't understand what you mean?

The point i'm trying to make is that Allardyce isn't a miracle worker. He's quite good at getting teams scrapping, but the idea that he's the only person ever to have achieved these amazing feats of escape is absurd. He did something at Sunderland that loads of others have done. Clement saved Swansea last season, Pearson saved Leicester, Sherwood saved Villa, even Martinez was famed for getting Wigan out of the mire every year. We don't need an escape artist, we need a good coach with new ideas.

Sorry, I wasn't sure whether the first few you mentioned had only survived once - whereas sam has literally been hired by teams for the sole purpose of surviving.

I think we do need an.escape artist, as our squad is a complete sham - our defence is quite literally the worst I've ever seen and confidence is shot tenfold throughout the club.

I would love a good coach with good ideas, but there is no.guarantee that the likes of Keane Jags Martina Williams etc can do anything like that.

That being said, they can't defend either so really idk.

Just think there aren't many, if any, options at all for us. For example, the Silva pursuit was hilarious as he was genuinely never going to be allowed to leave imo. Dyche is going nowhere as his team is a gazillion times better than ours etc.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Fair enough, but we factually are in a relegation battle as it stands at this moment in time.

Weird how some can think we're not in a relegation battle, no matter how many games we've played.

 

[matty1878]

Lose tomorrow and we will be

Lose tomorrow and you will all get your wish. So if we won't then what? You don't want fat Sam?

 

[davids]

We are rubbish at the moment not one person Pro/Anti Allardyce could even claim different... we all have to agree on that.

I jus think we are too short sighted to even consider anything outside our shores, which realistically leaves Sam because no-one will move mid season. There are better man managers, tacticians and more successful around the world then Sam will ever be, I just dont believe the board are brave enough to even consider it.

And you honestly think any top international manager would come?

 

[MikeH72]

Weird how some can think we're not in a relegation battle, no matter how many games we've played.

Relegation battles are season-long things, they don't just arbitrarily start in March. Unless you're like 9th at Christmas and then lose 12 games in a row and end up being dragged into it.

 

[Abraders]

What? I already know we're in this situation but it's still no need to be going for fat Sam. Aren't you ashamed?

I've been ashamed since we started this season to be honest mate! It has gone beyond that now to just laughing.

Everyone at the club is crooked, top to bottom, so I don't really see the big deal.

 

[ToffeeTim]

It's almost like Allardyce is the only boss who has ever kept a team up. I give up.

 

[matty1878]

I've been ashamed since we started this season to be honest mate! It has gone beyond that now to just laughing.

Everyone at the club is crooked, top to bottom, so I don't really see the big deal.

So if it's crooked let's add to it some more aye? Makes sense mate....

 

[matty1878]

It's almost like Allardyce is the only boss who has ever kept a team up. I give up.

It's like he's some god. I'm ashamed that he's guna be the new manager and I'm ashamed people want him.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Not sure if it's already been posted, but if not, supposedly according to the Daily Mirror (no laughing at the back) according to friends of Allardyce, he has told them that we will now have to "try and convince him to join Everton"

No chance, we're absolutely the best job he could hope to get.

 

[MikeH72]

It's like he's some god. I'm ashamed that he's guna be the new manager and I'm ashamed people want him.

But it's not is it. No one has said that, stop being a drama queen mate.

 

[matty1878]

But it's not is it. No one has said that, stop being a drama queen mate.

It is the way he's being raved about. He's the last manager on the planet sorry I forget that part

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

Want this to be announced, I'd feel better about tomorrow's game if he was in the dugout.

 

[Lanolin]

Sorry, I wasn't sure whether the first few you mentioned had only survived once - whereas sam has literally been hired by teams for the sole purpose of surviving.

I think we do need an.escape artist, as our squad is a complete sham - our defence is quite literally the worst I've ever seen and confidence is shot tenfold throughout the club.

I would love a good coach with good ideas, but there is no.guarantee that the likes of Keane Jags Martina Williams etc can do anything like that.

That being said, they can't defend either so really idk.

Just think there aren't many, if any, options at all for us. For example, the Silva pursuit was hilarious as he was genuinely never going to be allowed to leave imo. Dyche is going nowhere as his team is a gazillion times better than ours etc.

I know it's a cliché but there are no guarantees of anything. Allardyce is absolutely not a guarantee we will stay up, and to be honest, with the fractures it may cause in the fanbase and the toxic atmosphere it may bring to the club, he may well make a bad situation worse.

Allardyce is known as an escape artist simply because he's not a very good manager and so has never been given a job at a club with any aims to finish above 11th. That should tell you all you need to know about his abilities. Others have saved clubs from relegation and then gone on to better things - he hasn't.

Dyche would definitely come here in my opinion. Burnley are doing very well but they are absolutely at their limit and will inevitably start to drop back down the league eventually. He's not an idiot, he would get out now while his stock is high and come here for more money, a bigger budget and the chance to become seen as a hero despite not actually having done very much, seeing as some fans appear to think relegation is an absolute certainty despite us, you know, not being in the relegation zone or anything.