Everton reopen talks with Sam Allardyce

[Papa Shango]

Ok mate they haven't

He's right though.

Some people have shrugged their shoulders and thought he could do a job in our current situation and it is what it is but nobody has raved about him at all.

Football management is nonsense anyway. He may do great for us, we could get Ancelotti in and he could be awful, until it happens we will never know.

 

[MikeH72]

If fat Sam comes it's going to rip my heart and my pride to total shreds. It will make me consider my weekends which I've went the game for years. It's shameful it's disrespectful it's just so so wrong. Yearh I'm probably Guna have a breakdown but I can't comprehend this atall.

lol lol lol

I love you Matty x

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

In probably the most competative league in Europe (if not the World) in our position today what's needed is experience.Someone who's "been there done that".In an ideal world Allardyce wouldn't be in with a chance of managing our club,but after Sundays debacle (following the debacle of the Thursday before) it's obvious we need to get a manager in who has shown he can do the job that's needed.We can go on about rumours of what goes on behind closed doors and think about the sort of manager we can get if we just throw money at the problem,but while we are doing it we'll start to run out of games for someone to come in and sort out the mess.

And the assumption that Sam will come in and sort this mess is part of that argument mate. Its assumed because he has done it before, but so did Di Canio, and Advocaat.

Either side of the fence if you want sam or not, far too many assumptions that it'll work or wont work are going on. If you look at facts he loses roughly 8 our of the first 10 games in charge of a new club. Less then any "new manager boost" that there has been.

This happens we are in a bigger mess then we are now...

Disregard personal feelings about the man, I think he will dig us into a bigger hole then we are in, in the league, financially and in general. But thats my opinion, noone needs to share it.

 

[matty1878]

He's right though.

Some people have shrugged their shoulders and thought he could do a job in our current situation and it is what it is but nobody has raved about him at all.

Football management is nonsense anyway. He may do great for us, we could get Ancelotti in and he could be awful, until it happens we will never know.

So that tells you mate it doesn't have to be fat Sam. I mean he might not even be any good then what? Any manager is a risk but we shoudnt be going as low as we are

 

[ijjysmith]

I notice he's not our manager yet.

 

[matty1878]

Wonder if I can go on a year long holiday until he's been binned. And forget all about football...

 

[COYBL25]

If fat Sam comes it's going to rip my heart and my pride to total shreds. It will make me consider my weekends which I've went the game for years. It's shameful it's disrespectful it's just so so wrong. Yearh I'm probably Guna have a breakdown but I can't comprehend this atall.

It hasn't happened yet mate, so keep your chin up.

Ps - have you ever considered writing for Morrisey ?

 

[brigadier]

No news is GOOD news. (Fingers crossed)

 

[Papa Shango]

Agree mate.

No reason why we need to turn to a corrupt (but British) Ludite to pull our nuts from the fire.
Hell, there are only 6 / 20 PL clubs with British managers and none in the Top 6.
Dyche is the top British manager, followed closely by Chris Hughton and Eddie Howe ffs

The British old school Rhino, Dunc and Big Joe 'rocket' in the past 6 weeks has not produced the goods frankly.
I'd even say that the players' 'performances' have gotten worse since Koeman left tbh
Nothing tells me that a dose of British up-and-at-em under Fat Sam and cronies would be any different than Rhino - it'll be like flogging a dead horse. On that basis, the whole potential appointment of this dinosaur needs a rethink. This reeks of Kenright.

Appoint someone who knows how to set up a team, cover our deficiencies as best we can until the window, get the chequebook out then for a Striker, CB or two and a LB and we'll be fine.

This is as polar opposite a Kenwright appointment as you could get.

Kenwright has brought in two managers in his time with us. A young hungry up and comer in David Moyes and another young attacking manager in Martinez.

Since Moshiri arrived we have brought one pragmatist in and another one could be on his way.

So yeah, it does not really reek of him at all does it?

 

[AdaBrummieblue]

Have you all handed your season tickets in yet?

 

[davids]

And the assumption that Sam will come in and sort this mess is part of that argument mate. Its assumed because he has done it before, but so did Di Canio, and Advocaat.

Either side of the fence if you want sam or not, far too many assumptions that it'll work or wont work are going on. If you look at facts he loses roughly 8 our of the first 10 games in charge of a new club. Less then any "new manager boost" that there has been.

This happens we are in a bigger mess then we are now...

Disregard personal feelings about the man, I think he will dig us into a bigger hole then we are in, in the league, financially and in general. But thats my opinion, noone needs to share it.

And nobody could guarentee that wouldn't happen under any other manager.The fact remains he turned around Sunderland and Palace in seasons they looked doomed for the drop.As it stands we look that way,so it would be common sense to look at someone who has handled that situation successfully before.

 

[matty1878]

It hasn't happened yet mate, so keep your chin up.

Ps - have you ever considered writing for Morrisey ?

Well I'm resigned to it mate... And who?

 

[Mosh Pit]

You offering?

You taking?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

It hasn't happened yet mate, so keep your chin up.

Ps - have you ever considered writing for Morrisey ?

I think Radiohead would be more apt mate!

 

[Lanolin]

If you lose your first game and remain bottom of the league or near it for the whole season then yes, I'd say your relegation battle has lasted all season. If you're mid-table and then go on a massive winless run and get dragged into it at the last minute then you've been in a battle from that point. We have been in the bottom 5 since about mid-September, even sitting in the bottom 3 at one point.

Fair enough, we're just using different metrics then.

Personally I would only really use the term 'relegation battle' if a side had been genuine danger of actually going down. At this moment in time I don't think any team is in a relegation battle, because there's such a long time left for them to improve their situation.