andy4efc
Player Valuation: £60m
Keane has failed. Simple as that.
Factor in their relative ages and to me it is obvious that Godfrey should be ahead of Keane in the pecking order, which in turn exacerbates the need to dispense with Keane because he's getting paid way too much.
We should loan him out to any club willing to pay 50% + of his wages. We can recall him if needed.
Age doesn't define starters though. Godfrey has done even less than Keane in an Everton shirt. While Keane is most likely on a more significant wage than Godfrey, Godfrey is a hell of a lot more sellable and provides finance/cash flow. Keane would still be a back up. I agree it's a lot money to pay for a back up, but he is the more accomplished defender of all the back up options. I dont see how there is an argument for Godfrey being 'Obvious' at being higher in the pecking order. He only ever gets gametime at full back, (which is criminal considering how neglected our full back positions have been over the years). Just because he's on a lower wage doesn't mean he should be a better choice. While I think you believe we need a complete overhaul of those options (I would agree), it's going to have to be step by step. If you were to loan keane out for 50% wage contribution, lets say hes on 100k a week (which i think is a reasonable assumption), that's 50k we are still paying, and then still paying godfreys wage which for arugments say is 50k tops? (most likely more), we're still paying 100k for a back up defender. So then you discount the wages because you're still in a situation of getting one of hte books and paying a similar wage each week.
Keane is a better defender than Godfrey in my opinion. - But this doesn't mean the bar is set high, just because I think Keane is better than Godfrey, doesn't mean I wouldn't hope for an improvement of options. I think Keane's mistakes get more and more highlighted because he is a low block defender who, as you've put, turns like a tugboat. Godfrey makes plenty of mistakes, he has this thing about recovery tackles, but why does he have to make so many recovery tackles?
The loaning club would have to agree to a recall option though - if you're a loaning club would you want that clause for a player you're wanting to loan?
While we both agree Keane isn't good enough I dont think we're going to fully agree here buddy. I think we both would like upgrades on both but I personally dont think Keane is any worse than Ben Godfrey, when we are defending in a low block, defending a lead, I'd rather Keane come on to help out than Ben Godfrey.
It's nothing personal about Ben Godfrey either, he does get stuck in but for me, Keane is a better CB, Godfrey seems to only get gametime at full back when we're in crisis - which isn't his fault ofcourse. While the faith would be limited, I'd have more faith Keane filling in than Ben Godfrey.
Just to re-iterate, I wouldn't have either in an ideal world. I dont believe having a CB who's skillset is only built for one style of football/defending isn't a good thing, but we simply aren't going to be able to shift 8 players out and bring 8 players in. I think that's amplified by the fact we are extending OAP Young's contract. lol