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I didn't even realize Onana had been here for 2 seasons. Which is not great in itself really...Wharton moved 4months ago?
We should have been in for him then, offered a bit more but with payments beginning in July.
We would have to pay him loads more wages.Richie + £20 million for Onana?
Matches Branthwaite on all the stats and figures this season.Kilman is 27 and again, in a position of great depth for England. He's nothing special, his ceiling has probably already been reached.
You've picked a player who plays predominantly as a RB and two players that have played the majority of the season as forward midfielders (Foden and Bellingham) as CM options. That's daft. So you're left with Rice/Mainoo/Jones as options for the DM positions which Wharton/Garner operate in.
Wharton is just a better player. It's no sleight on Garner who is also a good midfielder for mid-table clubs but Wharton has that special something that we also see in Branthwaite.
Matches Branthwaite on all the stats and figures this season.
Its so naive to dismiss a player of someone like Kilman from what you are basing it on.........his age!
Was that special when he was messing up against Wolves? getting sent off v Brentford or being held out of the Blackburn team by Taylor Harwood Bellis?
The truth of the fact is Branthwaite has come out of nowhere in the last 12 months, which none of us could of seen or predicted?
How many of you Wharton's had Branthwaite in our starting XI over last summer? (Possibly apart from Zat). you probably wanted us all to go out and sign a Centre Half
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We were this season even with an 8 point deduction.He looked a very good player at the last Euros i think it was mate, surprised he hasn't stepped up.
I see Mbueno is making sounds about a move, Brentford are regressing in my opinion, we need to be ahead of them next season.
Had a lot of injuries too I thinkThey've been pants since Toney returned
I think last summer, after the season he had with PSV, most people had Branthwaite starting alongside Tarkowski and praying he could make the progression from PSV dutch league level to EPL level, for 2 reasons: 1) we have enough CBs in the squad and therefore the likelihood of us getting rid of one of those and finding a replacement were slim because, 2) the alternative was Keane.Matches Branthwaite on all the stats and figures this season.
Its so naive to dismiss a player of someone like Kilman from what you are basing it on.........his age!
Was that special when he was messing up against Wolves? getting sent off v Brentford or being held out of the Blackburn team by Taylor Harwood Bellis?
The truth of the fact is Branthwaite has come out of nowhere in the last 12 months, which none of us could of seen or predicted?
How many of you Wharton's had Branthwaite in our starting XI over last summer? (Possibly apart from Zat). you probably wanted us all to go out and sign a Centre Half
I agree with number 2 mate!I think last summer, after the season he had with PSV, most people had Branthwaite starting alongside Tarkowski and praying he could make the progression from PSV dutch league level to EPL level, for 2 reasons: 1) we have enough CBs in the squad and therefore the likelihood of us getting rid of one of those and finding a replacement were slim because, 2) the alternative was Keane.
Nathan Collins is a dud!
Kevin Schade is a dud!
Aaron Hickey has played less games than Nathan Patterson (who incidentally when fit gets picked ahead of him for Scotland)
Keane Lewis Potter has been a dud
The others are 'meh'
This Vincent Komapmy thing might work in our favour.
Dude managed to convince Burnley to spend 110 million in one window.
It’s just the latest shiny ball. It’s embarrassing how it happens every single time. A manager wins a few games and it’s ’why didn’t we get him’ a player has a few decent games and the forum goes into an obsessive mode about it like those consecutive summers when Grealish and Leon Bailey where the only two players in the world that Everton should be targeting.
There’s probably a load of stuff years back melting down about Phillips and Bielsa yet when we’re linked with getting him on a loan only a few seasons later people aren’t interested now.
If Brighton had bought Onana and were selling him to Bayern Munich you’d never hear the end of it on here about how useless Thelwell had been outmanoeuvred etc. It’s honestly just tiresome.
But sure Adam Wharton who has only just nailed down a place in the Palace side and may or may not make his first England squad is better than Onana who will probably end up at Arsenal or Bayern Munich and has captained Belgium.
Kilman is 27 and again, in a position of great depth for England. He's nothing special, his ceiling has probably already been reached.
You've picked a player who plays predominantly as a RB and two players that have played the majority of the season as forward midfielders (Foden and Bellingham) as CM options. That's daft. So you're left with Rice/Mainoo/Jones as options for the DM positions which Wharton/Garner operate in.
Wharton is just a better player. It's no sleight on Garner who is also a good midfielder for mid-table clubs but Wharton has that special something that we also see in Branthwaite.
I didn't even realize Onana had been here for 2 seasons. Which is not great in itself really...
Unfortunately we couldn't afford Wharton or anyone else regardless. Realistically we need to be spotting players before the cost any real money these days.
Matches Branthwaite on all the stats and figures this season.
Its so naive to dismiss a player of someone like Kilman from what you are basing it on.........his age!
Was that special when he was messing up against Wolves? getting sent off v Brentford or being held out of the Blackburn team by Taylor Harwood Bellis?
The truth of the fact is Branthwaite has come out of nowhere in the last 12 months, which none of us could of seen or predicted?
How many of you Wharton's had Branthwaite in our starting XI over last summer? (Possibly apart from Zat). you probably wanted us all to go out and sign a Centre Half
I agree. Do people think he doesn’t want to be in the starting 11?He trains and is ready to play, the insinuation is that he is somr kind of wage thief which utter bollox and a bit daft tbh
I agree. Do people think he doesn’t want to be in the starting 11?
KLP and Collins especially looked very good in their previous teams. In fact, Collins looked tremendous.
Youre pointing at the players being young. But you should be comparing their previous teams with their current ones -- for example a defender from a deep defensive side may not adapt to an attacking team using a high line.
That doesnt change with age.