Everton Summer transfers 2021

[JMT]

Crosses so far this season:

Everton: 556

Manchester City: 555

Premier League Club Stats - Crosses

View Crosses played by Premier League clubs for 2018/19 and previous seasons, on the official website of the Premier League.

www.premierleague.com

Most of city's goals come from working the ball into the box, getting it to the byline and cutting it back for a tap In anyway. Which DCL would be ideal for. The lad can score goals and is getting better year on year. If he was at City he would 100% score 20+ goals a season in the league with the chances they create.

Wow I thought our play was based off Digne crossing it in but Satan's minions have 753??????? Wow.

 

[Furey1878]

19 goals in 33 games guys, bigger priorities for us in summer...

 

[Bluewolf]

I agree with what you’re saying about Lukaku and his faults, but the lad was/is lethal in front of goal. DCL will never have that it’s just not in him, he just doesn’t have that killer instinct he’s too nice. If Lukaku was upfront for us this season we’d be top four now. It’s all well and good having a striker who can hold the ball up, but it creates us zero goals, as there’s no one driving forward from midfield . Put the lad one on one with the keeper and it’s at best 50/50 he scores, in reality it’s worse.
if the clubs serious about competing at the top then they will have to find a top slotter, either persuade Lukaku to come back or find a young one.

DCL for me is the prime example of a instinctive striker hes a good finisher when he doesn't have time to think but when he has to make a choice he usually picks the wrong one. His hold up play and ability to bring others into the game and get us further up the pitch is top notch. Hes a old fashion target man.

Lukaku isn't coming back here unfortunately and we tried to bring in the young striker with moise kean who was one of the most highly rated young strikers in the world and everyone gave the lad about 5, 3 minute appearances then wrote him off completely.

 

[Bluewolf]

Wow I thought our play was based off Digne crossing it in but Satan's minions have 753??????? Wow.

Yeah because their entire game plan is overload the box and pass it to the fullbacks to cross it in and getting dodgy ref decisions lol

 

[catcherintherye]

I suppose it just depends on what you see as big money or value. Personally I think you'd be mad to pay more than £80m for Rashford too. I would like us to keep DCL, but i'm genuinely surprised that some people think considering an offer of £80m would be crazy. It would be in the top 10/12 transfer fees in history, I think it would be borderline negligent not to at least entertain it.

Yes agree with most of that.

And I would agree on Rashford too, I think he's a lovely bloke but a bit overated when you boil down to the numbers.

I've been quite open to the idea of selling DCL but I do think we have to be honest about what he has achieved. Yes he scores in bursts, but in truth so do most forwards. People go on about Vardy, go and look at his record, he goes on md scoring runs then goes blank for a time.

I don't really get the whole "he only scores tap ins" stuff to be honest. If you look at the goals breakdown of most of the top goalscorers, its tap ins. They get most of their goals in the box. People say it as an insult, but its a compliment. If your movement is either so good, or you ahe the physical prowess to get to the ball first in and around the box (DCL is the latter as I don't think his movement is great) then you deserve all the credit and goals you get.

It's very hard to pitch what would be a fair price this summer. Prices declined steadily last summer and collapsed in January. The ESL has fallen away and clubs are skint, especially top clubs. The flip of it, is that FFP has essentially gone (though not officially). It's very hard to project what happens on prices. Theres a world where 80m is a bit cheap, but also a world is spending is reigned in and there are deflationary pressures where it is very good.

As a final aside, I dont think this is the Lukaku situation MK2. We have Richarlison in the squad and we also have Moise Kean who could come back in. With Lukaku we had Enner Valencia and Kone.

 

[JMT]

19 goals in 33 games guys, bigger priorities for us in summer...

mental isn't it, we have a absolute diabolical midfield but DCL is in a dry patch so lets replace him with Danny Ings, This fanbase is mental.

 

[catcherintherye]

Crosses so far this season:

Everton: 556

Manchester City: 555

Premier League Club Stats - Crosses

View Crosses played by Premier League clubs for 2018/19 and previous seasons, on the official website of the Premier League.

www.premierleague.com

Most of city's goals come from working the ball into the box, getting it to the byline and cutting it back for a tap In anyway. Which DCL would be ideal for. The lad can score goals and is getting better year on year. If he was at City he would 100% score 20+ goals a season in the league with the chances they create.

I tend to agree. He is best in the box, and crudely the ball is on the box an awful lot more for City than us.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Crosses so far this season:

Everton: 556

Manchester City: 555

Premier League Club Stats - Crosses

View Crosses played by Premier League clubs for 2018/19 and previous seasons, on the official website of the Premier League.

www.premierleague.com

Most of city's goals come from working the ball into the box, getting it to the byline and cutting it back for a tap In anyway. Which DCL would be ideal for. The lad can score goals and is getting better year on year. If he was at City he would 100% score 20+ goals a season in the league with the chances they create.

For me DCL (and Richarlison) are over rated because their competition at this club is so bad (Tosun, Benard) if we had Danny Ings on the bench and someone like a Zaha both would have been dropped at certain points of this season (particularly Richarlison).

Patrick Bamford has scored the same amount of goals as DCL in the league and leads the line just as well yet has played most his days in the fizzy pop league.

DCL is a good player but he's nowhere near the quality of a Man City - put him in that team and you see his weaknesses instantly alongside genuine top quality players.

If you compare the players we've lost in recent years Rooney and Lukaku aside none have been irreplaceable and for me you can stick DCL/Richarlison in that below category of good but not great players - Felliani, Lescott, Arteta.

If you were offered £80-90 million for either you would be daft not to take it.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Correct me if Im wrong, but he has scored 19 goals in all domestic comps already. Tap ins still count as goals the last time I checked. Im not averse to selling him, but given he's the same as as Rashford, and scored more none penalty goals than him in the same comps, what value would people have on Rashford?

I'd also say, if Abraham is worth 40m, Calvert Lewin would be worth 140m.

As for a squad player, Im not sure on that. I'm not sure United or Chelsea have a player who can score more none penalty goals than him. He'd score bundles of goals in a better side in my opinion and would probably be at 30+ in either of those teams.

The issue for me is, he’s gone from a player who contributed a lot but no goals, to a player in a purple patch that offered both and now Offers neither.
he’s been fairly anonymous for three months, he’s not getting enough ball for sure, but when he does he needs to do more with it

 

[Lanolin]

Yes agree with most of that.

And I would agree on Rashford too, I think he's a lovely bloke but a bit overated when you boil down to the numbers.

I've been quite open to the idea of selling DCL but I do think we have to be honest about what he has achieved. Yes he scores in bursts, but in truth so do most forwards. People go on about Vardy, go and look at his record, he goes on md scoring runs then goes blank for a time.

I don't really get the whole "he only scores tap ins" stuff to be honest. If you look at the goals breakdown of most of the top goalscorers, its tap ins. They get most of their goals in the box. People say it as an insult, but its a compliment. If your movement is either so good, or you ahe the physical prowess to get to the ball first in and around the box (DCL is the latter as I don't think his movement is great) then you deserve all the credit and goals you get.

It's very hard to pitch what would be a fair price this summer. Prices declined steadily last summer and collapsed in January. The ESL has fallen away and clubs are skint, especially top clubs. The flip of it, is that FFP has essentially gone (though not officially). It's very hard to project what happens on prices. Theres a world where 80m is a bit cheap, but also a world is spending is reigned in and there are deflationary pressures where it is very good.

As a final aside, I dont think this is the Lukaku situation MK2. We have Richarlison in the squad and we also have Moise Kean who could come back in. With Lukaku we had Enner Valencia and Kone.

I do understand the tap in stuff to be fair. I've said it myself before, it's fine having goals like that as your bread and butter, but there is a concern that DCL doesn't have anything on top of it. It does worry me at times that if we don't deliver great service to him he just doesn't score. Not he finds it harder, it just doesn't happen. He's also the only player in the top 24 scorers in the league (thats how long the list is on BBC, it might be more) without an assist to his name. People keep saying 'it'd cost the £80m to replace him' but he's got the same amount of league goals as Patrick Bamford, and players like Wood, Watkins, Ings, Iheanacho and Wilson are in the same sort of scoring ballpark. It's really stretching it to suggest you couldn't replace him adequately for considerably less than £80m.

Again though, that's not to say we should do it. He is very good, and he can get better. I never like selling our best players just as a point of principle and he's definitely one of our best players. I just find some of the dismissal of it a bit weird. I'm not sure how much people realistically think a player like him should be valued it if £80m is derisory. Same with Richarlison, I just find talk of bids in that range fanciful, they're both very good but I just don't see them as being in that category.

 

[catcherintherye]

The issue for me is, he’s gone from a player who contributed a lot but no goals, to a player in a purple patch that offered both and now Offers neither.
he’s been fairly anonymous for three months, he’s not getting enough ball for sure, but when he does he needs to do more with it

But Calvert Lewin does offer a lot other than goals.

 

[catcherintherye]

I do understand the tap in stuff to be fair. I've said it myself before, it's fine having goals like that as your bread and butter, but there is a concern that DCL doesn't have anything on top of it. It does worry me at times that if we don't deliver great service to him he just doesn't score. Not he finds it harder, it just doesn't happen. He's also the only player in the top 24 scorers in the league (thats how long the list is on BBC, it might be more) without an assist to his name. People keep saying 'it'd cost the £80m to replace him' but he's got the same amount of league goals as Patrick Bamford, and players like Wood, Watkins, Ings, Iheanacho and Wilson are in the same sort of scoring ballpark. It's really stretching it to suggest you couldn't replace him adequately for considerably less than £80m.

Again though, that's not to say we should do it. He is very good, and he can get better. I never like selling our best players just as a point of principle and he's definitely one of our best players. I just find some of the dismissal of it a bit weird. I'm not sure how much people realistically think a player like him should be valued it if £80m is derisory. Same with Richarlison, I just find talk of bids in that range fanciful, they're both very good but I just don't see them as being in that category.

Yes a lot of stuff I agree with there.

You see the whole "not getting the service" stuff is something I often quibble. It's up to a centre forward to make it easier for players to give him service. DCL Is not a great finisher, which is fine if he's making a lot of chances for himself, but he couldn't just rely on lots being made for him. So thats certainly 1 area I would like to see some improvement.

Re Bamford yes, I meanI think some of the goals are pens, and there is a question of consistency (you get a lot of 1 hit wonders, which Bamford feels to me) but the general point is fair. It's also worth saying, we already have Richarlison, and Kean on the books who could both get to 20 goals. So the pressure is not the same.

My own view is it would be quite smart to bank 80m, probably avoid Bamford (who's at the top of his price) but go and get Ings, who will be available for a heavily knockdown fee with 12 months left. You could probably make 60m on those deals. I think Ings could also do some of the donkey work for a Moise Kean if Kean were to stay. We'd then have decent amounts of money to be able to re-invest in other areas.

On Richarlison, yes I agree too. I remember people being a bit outraged that I mentioned I'd have really considered the 85m bid we got a year or so back. I really like Richarlison, he works very hard off the ball for the team and chips in with goals, but a 23 year old who scores 10 league goals a season is not an elite player. It's a good player, but not an elite player, and to me 80m is an elite fee. I hope it all clicks for Richarlison, and it could and he gets 20+ goals, but Im not wholly convinced he does that yet. He reminds me as a Cahill level of player, which is great and if he stays for 7-8 years like Cahill Im sure he will have more goals than him!

 

[Deulofeumygod]

The scenes in here if Richy and DCL leave this summer.

Some of you are the worst.

 

[Lanolin]

Yes a lot of stuff I agree with there.

You see the whole "not getting the service" stuff is something I often quibble. It's up to a centre forward to make it easier for players to give him service. DCL Is not a great finisher, which is fine if he's making a lot of chances for himself, but he couldn't just rely on lots being made for him. So thats certainly 1 area I would like to see some improvement.

Re Bamford yes, I meanI think some of the goals are pens, and there is a question of consistency (you get a lot of 1 hit wonders, which Bamford feels to me) but the general point is fair. It's also worth saying, we already have Richarlison, and Kean on the books who could both get to 20 goals. So the pressure is not the same.

My own view is it would be quite smart to bank 80m, probably avoid Bamford (who's at the top of his price) but go and get Ings, who will be available for a heavily knockdown fee with 12 months left. You could probably make 60m on those deals. I think Ings could also do some of the donkey work for a Moise Kean if Kean were to stay. We'd then have decent amounts of money to be able to re-invest in other areas.

On Richarlison, yes I agree too. I remember people being a bit outraged that I mentioned I'd have really considered the 85m bid we got a year or so back. I really like Richarlison, he works very hard off the ball for the team and chips in with goals, but a 23 year old who scores 10 league goals a season is not an elite player. It's a good player, but not an elite player, and to me 80m is an elite fee. I hope it all clicks for Richarlison, and it could and he gets 20+ goals, but Im not wholly convinced he does that yet. He reminds me as a Cahill level of player, which is great and if he stays for 7-8 years like Cahill Im sure he will have more goals than him!

Yeah I should clarify that I wasn't advocating signing any of the names I mentioned, just pointing out that a 12-15 goal striker doesn't necessarily have to cost the earth, and that is currently what DCL is. The crux of it really is how likely it is that he'll go on to be more than that. In order to do that I think he needs to add those other types of goals to his game, or more assists. If he can do that then he is moving into that top bracket. If he can't then I think he stays below it, and while that is obviously perfectly fine, 'fine' doesn't really win you trophies (or cost £80m). That's why although I think he's very good, and would very much like to keep him, I wouldn't be dismissing the idea of selling out of hand.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Correct me if Im wrong, but he has scored 19 goals in all domestic comps already. Tap ins still count as goals the last time I checked. Im not averse to selling him, but given he's the same as as Rashford, and scored more none penalty goals than him in the same comps, what value would people have on Rashford?

I'd also say, if Abraham is worth 40m, Calvert Lewin would be worth 140m.

As for a squad player, Im not sure on that. I'm not sure United or Chelsea have a player who can score more none penalty goals than him. He'd score bundles of goals in a better side in my opinion and would probably be at 30+ in either of those teams.

Rashford isn’t a great finisher that’s why he plays on the wing. And I’m taking prem goals. And he has 14.



Abraham out scored him last season, so not sure what you’ve seen to think DCL is 3x the player. Ings got 22 prem goals last season does that make him worth 200mil.

My point regarding tap in. Is he’s missed 6/7 clean through 1 on 1’s. also has no assists.
he’s not as a good as an all round centre forward as you think.

Just watch Cavani at Man Utd at 34. He’s different level.

I just think the game has changed so much, I don’t think you can be just a linker or rush anymore. Unless you’re ridiculously prolific. Look how pep will even play without a striker at times