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Match Thread Everton v Manchester United. 1st Jan. 2018. 17.30

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We did. We had three chances - two blocked off the line and Niasse missed a relative sitter

He should have brought Gylfi on while we were on top - which was the 70th through to the 80th.

We fell asleep for a minute and conceded. Game over.
Two blocked off the line? When did this happen?
 
No shots on target with Lindelof playing RB and Rojo playing... That is poor.

I don't expect to win or draw, but a shot on target at least.
 
So frustrating, just gifted them the freedom for no reason. I can half understand it at anfield and even against Chelsea, but this lot? They're as clueless as us up top.

it shouldn't be done against anybody.

it's predictable.

we sat deep in the 1st half, but always had them contained.

in the second half, we sat too deep, and weren't pressing them so that they couldn't get near the goal - which we did do in the first half.

Mata had that one that hit the post and after that you knew it would only be a matter of time.
 
We don't have the team to play expansive football - better get used to park the bus.

It,s a summer rebuild job and a big one !
 

Two blocked off the line? When did this happen?

Davies shot from Holgate pull back - Rojo or Jones blocked it about two/three yards out. De Gea wouldn't have got there.

Williams shot from Vlasic's corner - hit a United player but was definitely on target.

Not good enough but McCarthy coming on wasn't a 'defensive' change as he pushed us up the pitch.
 
Pogba and some other quality won the game today. We put a lot of effort in, but half of our players would not get into a top ten Prem team. Glad to see a more offensive formation, though, at least it proved that SAm was correct not to go gung ho in his early games, A couple of signings...striker and defender, and we'll be ok. Still see us 7th or 8th.
Vlasic was a big let down,Keane is an accident waiting to happen. Thought the rest did OK considering we were outclassed. Rooney was not fit from the start. Back too soon.
 
never want to see holgate rb again, keane ever again or schneiderlin again. vlasic not ready to start yet either. need a new striker, a new cb, a new lb, a new cm.. too much quality is lacking in this team for us to keep clean sleets AND play good offensive football.
 
No shots on target with Lindelof playing RB and Rojo playing... That is poor.

I don't expect to win or draw, but a shot on target at least.

Rojo has been excellent (when not injured) for about a year now, lad.

The 'no shots on target' is the worry, not the quality of united's best defender (after Baily)
 

It must be awful for our players to play in front of our home fans at times.

For the first 5 minutes of the game we were all over United , playing good stuff and had them on the back foot. Then Rooney hit a cross field ball from the main stand side of the pitch towards Bolasie, could have been a good ball but it was slightly overhit.

Mata jumped on and intercepted, and the entire bullens road started hysterically shrieking at Rooney and you physically saw his shoulders drop.

It was the same under Martinez to the point John Stones was actively telling the park end to pack it in , and it happened at the start of the season this season and the players just seemed to down tools. See Ashley Williams celebrating a goal by just staring into the Gwladys.

These players are mostly in their 20’s with a few more experience players having been club captains elsewhere , are we blinkered enough to be thinking that they’re looking at themselves and saying we should be playing better for this people?

I would bet every penny I have to my name that this squad of players talk between themselves and hate playing in front of our fans, genuinely. I know for a fact if I was playing football and getting screamed at and hysterically wailed at then I would think the same.

It didn’t happen so much under Moyes but even then there was incidents of Moyes himself telling the street end to do one when we scored after we had been booing his subs.

The last time this club was regularly winning trophies was in the 80’s and even then it’s not like we were the dominant team in the U.K. This divine right of the “everton way” needs to stop. We’ve been crap my whole life and I’m 27, what’s the Everton way for me? Surviving relegation on the last day? Finishing 4th with ugly football?

Why weren’t we screaming at our own players that season? That wasn’t the Everton way was it. It’s embarassing
 
Pogba and some other quality won the game today. We put a lot of effort in, but half of our players would not get into a top ten Prem team. Glad to see a more offensive formation, though, at least it proved that SAm was correct not to go gung ho in his early games, A couple of signings...striker and defender, and we'll be ok. Still see us 7th or 8th.
Vlasic was a big let down,Keane is an accident waiting to happen. Thought the rest did OK considering we were outclassed. Rooney was not fit from the start. Back too soon.

finally some decent posters starts showing up here, and not just the clueless people who just whines for the sake of it.
 
Davies shot from Holgate pull back - Rojo or Jones blocked it about two/three yards out. De Gea wouldn't have got there.

Williams shot from Vlasic's corner - hit a United player but was definitely on target.

Not good enough but McCarthy coming on wasn't a 'defensive' change as he pushed us up the pitch.
Hardly blocked off the line these mate. Of course it was a defensive change whatever way you look at it. He took a more attacking player off for a defensive one. That is a defensive change. Whether you think it changed or helped us go forward is a different question but it was a negative and defensive sub.
 

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