Everton v Norwich City - EFL Cup - Tuesday 20 Sept, 19.45 KO

BlueToff · September 21, 2016

MartyMcFly said:
Decent player or not. He's not a lone striker and you yourself admit that.

We have other squad players who are much better than him in all the other positions he can play.

So you change the system slightly 'if needed'

JJK · September 21, 2016

Out of curiosity I watched Kone during half time to see what he'd be doing to get himself warmed up. He literally did this little shuffle thing on the same spot and didn't move for the whole 15 minutes, didn't touch a ball once. When he gets minutes in the pitch I spend the majority of the time in bulk At him trying to act like he can play football.

Lowste · September 21, 2016

Groucho said:
I'm not saying don't be disappointed - I certainly am.

I'm saying there's no need to be upset, no need to mass-fume-meltdown.

i totally agree, but there are people who actually think it is a good thing we are knocked out of a Cup that we have as good a chance of winning as anybody. In my little world silverware is silverware and we are not big enough to turn our nose up at it, but for some reason people say we should look at the bigger picture...
I don't blame rk for this, I look at it just being a very lacklustre performance that every team endures, and for me it will test our character in the next few games.
Dissapointed is what we all should be...simply as the performance was lacklustre and we know we are better than this

Nil Satis Niasse Optimum · September 21, 2016

Well, if Bournemouth snot us on Saturday let the fume commence. They had a much-changed team yesterday too but around half of them will start against us and they played 120 minutes, plus have started the season poorly. Let's have our third away victory in a row please, then the pain from yesterday's result will be eased.

=NSNO= · September 21, 2016

Unnecessary tournament. Unwanted games. So, skip is right for this shitty cup.

Toffeelover · September 21, 2016

Have a feeling RK wanted to use this game to try out players in different positions and to asses them.

Ashtonian · September 21, 2016

Don't agree with the 'glad we are out' mentality. we all wanted to get through last night so right to be at least a bit gutted about losing.

But we went out for 3 reasons.

1. 2 blatent handballs stopping goals not given.
2. Players couldn't hit the target, either blazing it (del) or trying to turn the defender too often (barkley)
3. No attacking back up.

but we weren't bad last night either. We played quite well. Created chances we should have scored, and if even if only a few went in, we walk out last night 4-2 winners.

It happens, everton normally go out of this cup early anyway, so not arsed in that sense.

ToffeeTim · September 21, 2016

Anyone who thinks it's good we got knocked out is dead weird

Osamabindiesel · September 21, 2016

It's not good we are out of the cup, but it is relief that we lost this game and not a league one. Hopefully it wakes the team up rather than leading to poor form.

BlueToff · September 21, 2016

ToffeeTim said:
Anyone who thinks it's good we got knocked out is dead weird

The only positive from it is the kick up the arse the squad will get - and to an extent, the lessons Koeman will have learnt

ToffeeTim · September 21, 2016

BlueToff said:
The only positive from it is the kick up the arse the squad will get - and to an extent, the lessons Koeman will have learnt

Possibly mate. And I'm sure Koeman did learn about his squad. But unfortunately there's zero he can do till the new year.

Nil Satis Niasse Optimum · September 21, 2016

It just makes it crystal clear that we have to do everything we can to keep Lukaku fit.

60 minutes gone in a game and we're two up? Get him off and rested.

75 minutes gone in a tough away game and we're level? Get him off and be happy with the hard-earned point.

He picks up a knock and playing him in the next game might mean he misses the two after that? Don't play him and just have him miss the one game.

That's unfortunately the way it will need to be following the board's disgusting refusal to back the manager in the transfer market.