Match Thread Everton v Swansea. 24th Jan at 1330.

What do you identify the Wirral as?

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froggyted said:
Ok. No more excuses now. You can't keep making excuses this far in. We are VERY mediocre. Forget about our team being so talented and our position not doing us justice, we are VERY mediocre. That was outrageously unacceptable, and inexcusable. Some real talent on the pitch, but not gelling as a TEAM. Obviously confidence is a factor, and the run of poor results is a big contributor to it, but it goes beyond this. And yes, for all i love Roberto, and was defending him as recently as last week, he has to take some flak for this; but ultimately a lot of the defensive mistakes are down to poor decision making ON THE PITCH. My MOTM is, unpredictably, Deulofeu: apart from Barry nobody else was remotely worthy of it. Here are a few other observations on the basis of the last 90 minutes:

1. Fortress Goodison has become a free-for-all bazaar.
2. Forget about top 4 or even top 6 now, top half needs to be our ambition.
3. As a result of point 2, we're not going to be able to hang on the the squad we have in the summer. Let's be realistic about his, the chance has been blown. The best we can hope for now is to survive this transfer window.
4. We might have a lot of individual talent but are not gelling as a team, therefore in effect the net result is a mediocre team.
5. Constantly, there is no one on the far post for corners. I can't believe that lesson hasn't been learned.
6. Stones has become a bit of a prima donna and needs to get back to basics.
7. Romelu needs to take his hands from in front of his eyes and concentrate on being a bit sharper next time around.
8. Selling Naismith was a massive error imo, a real stab in the back for someone who always gave 100%, and can only be condoned if we are buying a top class striker to replace him. Kone is only good enough off the bench, he's had more than enough chances to convince me otherwise.
9. The Goodison crowd have become the twelfth man - for the opposition. Barkley and Howard in particular are suffering. You don't stab your own players in the back during a game. Neither of these players are as bad as some are making out on here, but as someone else suggested Roberto needs to take Tim out of the firing line and let Joel have the shirt for a while.
10. The referee has become the thirteenth man - but we're not doing enough to override this and make our own luck.
11. We badly need a buyer and and a serious injection of money - so have you managed to seal a deal yet, Bill, or will you still be trying to sell us the same old myth next season?
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I can't see us sacking Martinez, things were worse last season and he is still here. He needs to see sense and start making changes to the team. Howard has to go, drop him for a couple of weeks to see if it has any effect on our defending. We can't keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. We need some changes.
 

froggyted said:
Well I'll be watching, and I'll be a nervous wreck before the first ball is kicked! Obviously I'd love us to win the trophy, but i can't bear the thought of RS doing one over us yet again, and on current form it's on the cards.
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Good point.

You know, if the RS beat Stoke on the Tuesday, then defeat at City on Wednesday will be a much less bitter pill to swallow.
 
Caolam said:
I can't see us sacking Martinez, things were worse last season and he is still here. He needs to see sense and start making changes to the team. Howard has to go, drop him for a couple of weeks to see if it has any effect on our defending. We can't keep doing the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. We need some changes.
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Howard will never be dropped

If Martinez had any desire to do so he would have done it ages ago

He's in for the foreseeable unless he gets hurt, we might as well just accept it

He wasn't helped today with that horrid backpass to be fair
 
davek said:
You're not seeing the bigger picture.

My hope on here is that people take a deep breath win lose or draw and assess what's going on. It never comes true. The frustrated fumers are out in force and we end up wasting hours and days discussing a managerial change THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

It's pointless.
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The bigger picture is that we are over 2 and a half years into this managerial cycle and things have got much worse. We have a manager who can't organise a piss up in a brewery.
 

Groucho said:
This is true BUT, even you must admit mate, that he should be getting more from this squad - how the hell are we 12th with one of the division's top scorers?
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Because at the other end of the pitch he perseveres with a useless GK.

It's all very easy to fix. Not much wrong here. Anyone saying "oh it's much more complex than that" are completely wrong.
 
ToffeeTim said:
The bigger picture is that we are over 2 and a half years into this managerial cycle and things have got much worse. We have a manager who can't organise a piss up in a brewery.
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That's not true.

You're lashing out and not giving this much thought.

It's typical knee jerk.
 
BlueToff said:
he didn't play badly vs chelsea, or at city (bar the laps at the end)
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I think he is believing the hype that's been put on him... and that is responsible for his lapses in concentration.With his agent in his ear and no Naismith there now (who took him under his wing) I think he wants out.......... and I for one would snap anyones hand off for £50 million.Whoever he goes to are hardly going to be our rivals for the next couple of seasons.Our rivals our going to be Palace,Watford and Stoke.
 

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