Match Thread Everton v West Ham. 5th March at 1500.

Rook · March 5, 2016

chicoazul said:

In fairness to Mirallas he wasted no time in committing penalties.

matty1878 · March 5, 2016

Jimmy1 said:
End of the day we've seen the brilliant and the bad in Martinez today. Brilliant in that we went down to 10 men and were the better team and were tearing them to shreds at times. The bad in that he doesn't know when to shut up shop and protect the hard earned lead. Shocking subs.

He tried to for the draw and we still lost

Jimmy1 · March 5, 2016

matty1878 said:
He tried to for the draw and we still lost

At 2-2 we were done. The equaliser was a defeat for me.

Eggs · March 5, 2016

Joey66 said:
Lukaku always dues that and usually scores - the fact the keeper is stood on his six yard line when he saves it it was a gift of of a pen should have been scored end of cost us big time!

....he might score the next few but I'm not a fan of the way Lukaku takes penalties. He's got a kick like a mule and I can't understand why he tries to be fancy.

matty1878 · March 5, 2016

Jimmy1 said:
At 2-2 we were done. The equaliser was a defeat for me.

I know that mate and bringing on Barry shows exactly that like

Joey66 · March 5, 2016

Eggs said:
....he might score the next few but I'm not a fan of the way Lukaku takes penalties. He's got a kick like a mule and I can't understand why he tries to be fancy.

Ross. Barkley should have taken it IMO - Lukarku always stops on his run up been Sussed out today awful pen anyway!

DRM · March 5, 2016

Eric Djemba-Djemba said:
It would never happen anyway but would you actually say no to Jose?

Yes.

Eggs · March 5, 2016

Jimmy1 said:
At 2-2 we were done. The equaliser was a defeat for me.

....when we were 2-0 up I thought a draw would be dreadful and a defeat would be catastrophic. I can't say I'm totally surprised it was the latter.

Eric Djemba-Djemba · March 5, 2016

DRM said:
Yes.

Good god. We must have a pretty good manager already or there must be someone else very good out there that you'd be willing to turn down one of the best managers in the history of football.

Everton17 · March 5, 2016

deipnosophist said:
well articulated post mate. Next season we will be a LOT better...given the proviso that we have a new manager. Roberto Martinez is just not up to the task at this level. That there remain Evertonians who subsist with mentality/belief that he does, quite frankly astounds me. I am not a fan of 'the cult' vs 'the plotters' polarisation....but I am a fan of common sense.
....having said that, the next president of US is either Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton...
...I give up

Haha lovely bit with the presidency xD

But back to Martinez and Everton, i'm really sad for Martinez, because i would love for him to succeed, i know most of us probably wants, as we all just wants what is best for Everton.

But i actually like him, i like his philosophy, the way he wants to play football, and he really seems to me like a top guy and person as well, unfortunately he just, as much as i hate to admit it, just don't seem like a top manager...

Still hope he proves me wrong but i find it hard to believe... :/

Jonahjones · March 5, 2016

BlueToff said:
Nope.

The ref messed up for Kev's first booking but it happened so Mirallas was stupid.

Lukaku should have slammed home that penalty instead of trying to be clever. That's on him.

Martinez was ridiculous to take off Lennon and bring on Niasse. Simple as that. Our weakness is crosses so why oh why did he replace our best player who had the pace to get across and stop those crosses with a striker at 2-0 up.

Stupid. It's cost us. I won't defend him as I said I wouldn't if he clearly messed up.

Massive now that he recovers and if not then I do feel he may go.

It hasn't swayed me towards wanting him gone per-say, but I totally accept that he's brought it on himself today.

I love this forum and respect every post whether I agree or not.

I have to ask at this stage why you remain in the Martinez camp. What do you feel he will do different defensively that he hasn't done in the last eight seasons?

Eggs · March 5, 2016

Joey66 said:
Ross. Barkley should have taken it IMO - Lukarku always stops on his run up been Sussed out today awful pen anyway!

.....I like the CF taking pens and Lukaku's record is probably very good but he was an accident waiting to happen. As much as you can blame him I can't understand why the coaches haven't taken him to one side and told him to hit the corners with pace.

Jimmy1 · March 5, 2016

Eggs said:
....when we were 2-0 up I thought a draw would be dreadful and a defeat would be catastrophic. I can't say I'm totally surprised it was the latter.

Its hard to take this one because ultimately we played so well. After that penalty miss you just knew something terrible was to follow. There was an inevitability about it.