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Gueye always seems to hit the onion bag.
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Preki
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Highlights are on talksport videos can't post the link.
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Anustart
Regardless of opposition, those were 3 sensational goals.
The first... what a ball from Baines. From his own half ffs. Paul Scholes eat your heart out. Tidy finish from Vic too, which is weird to say.
The second... Ace interchanging and fantastic vision from Barkley. Good run from Bily and a neat finish.
The third... That was some 1-2! Gueye with a great pass to Becks, before Jermaine delivers a lethal cross for Gueye to hurl himself at. I didn't know Jermaine had that in him.
billycopper
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Ossie's career average is a goal every 7.5 league games, which works out as 5 goals over the campaign. Lets say that Ossie's run in the team started with the derby in January, where he played 77 mins. Pienaar left after that match and Cahill went to the Asia Cup. He scored 4 goals in the remaining 20 games of the season, which is 1 in 5. If he keeps that rate up, he'll score 7.6 goals over the season. If we're judging it on goals, even with Ossie upping his average, we'd lose 3-4 goals per season (compared to Cahill's average of 11) by using Osman in the hole rather than Cahill. Effectively, you'd be wiping out the goals that Osman currently gives us from a deeper position.
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Anustart
This is tedious now, mate.
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
Am I talking to you?
kenada_blue
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Osman creates goals.
Cahill doesn't.
Osman offers more in that attacking free role as he can score, assist, get back, defend, sit, pass etc
Cahill is an agitator and target man.
Our play last season needed a better ttechnical creative player in that hole, and looked a lot better when Osman stepped up there
But I can see it reverting to type and well build a team around cahill yet again. Which again won't work
All good points mate, but Cahill can score up to 10 goals per season, thats a lot to take out of a team or to make up - while playing one up front.
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
Osman provided 6 assists in 26 league appearance last season. Cahill provided 4 in 27. Arteta provided 4 in 29. In which case why don't we get rid of Arteta and keep Cahill for his goals?
I don't disagree with you about team shape and the need for a playmaker in the middle of the park. I'm saying that we still need to find a place for Cahill.
billycopper
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I knew someone would see the sense in what I'm saying.
kenada_blue
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10 goals...great.
What else? If the team as a whole plays as bluntly up front like last season in the final 3rd to accomadate Cahills 10 goals, we go nowhere as we rely on crosses.'
The link between attack and midfield is poor when Cahill plays. He's got no Yak, probably his best strike partner, to work off. Our play is now also more of a passing style than direct style.
Its a missing piece that Osman, Bilya, Arteta, Rodwell can all offer more too IMO
And Bilya does look good in the middle
Also
ToxtethBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
Anything could happen, to be honest. I don't like to look at things like that, especially when we are talking about him playing in a completely different position over a long period of time. Osman could score three goals all season next year, or he might score ten. It's difficult to say until you actually see it. Nothing is a dead cert really. Even towards the end of last season, Osman wasn't always playing behind the striker, he also played on the left and right wing, so it's not really a fair comparison.
Cahill scores more goals than Xavi and Iniesta, do you think Barca would play him ahead of them because of this? No chance. It could be argued that a more technical, creative footballer in the hole would open up more avenues for us in terms of creating chances. I don't want to sound like I'm trying to bash Tim but we do play to his strengths. We look to create space for crossing oppurtunities and it all becomes a little predictable, especially when our wide players are hardly our strongest outlets.
He wouldn't even be my first choice player to play there (Osman) and I think Cahill will certainly play his part next season, but there's nothing wrong with trying different things. There isn't one way of playing, and looking at players like Osman, Saha and Rodwell in that role wouldn't be a bad thing. We clearly struggle when it comes to breaking teams down, so you can't just stick with what you've got and hope for the best. We should be looking to progress.
kenada_blue
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But they're stats that are a bit off being that Osman for most of those games were from the wing, a position he's poor at.
Artetas return is poor after he takes all the set pieces. He also sits very deep. And most of his assists came from either a good set piece or the wing.
You slap Osman off a striker, you get more assists. You open up more options than just getting a cross in the box for Cahill to score, it also gives you main striker more room to move and be the focal point.
There is no problem in having a Cahill on the bench to change a game as we don't have many game changers. Its also no problem which I've said many times before that that you look at the opposition and set your team for them...that can include Cahill starting etc
Moyes never does that and rotate depending on the opposition when he should. Hell limit injuries and also offer more options
I hope this is the case next season, but I know it won't happen
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