Everton Youth Teams Thread

[Barnfred 55]

Gary Neville is the player that Kenny reminds me of not quite talk enough to be a centre back but could do a job there also decent going forward without being mind blowing. I think he might have been better served going out on loan to get games but learning under Silva might also be beneficial.

Think he's similar in stature and physicality to Gary Neville. But I've long since realised that if you make comparisons on here you risk running the gauntlet of ridicule.

If he goes lo loan it would have to be at the required standard, i.e. another premiership club or equivalent foreign league, otherwise he won't learn anything. He has to be challenged against top players to improve. Plus we'd only have to replace him with somebody to cover at RB.

 

[messymascot]

Think he's similar in stature and physicality to Gary Neville. But I've long since realised that if you make comparisons on here you risk running the gauntlet of ridicule.

If he goes lo loan it would have to be at the required standard, i.e. another premiership club or equivalent foreign league, otherwise he won't learn anything. He has to be challenged against top players to improve. Plus we'd only have to replace him with somebody to cover at RB.

I would have kept hold of Connolly as he can cover RB LB or midfield and let Kenny go out on loan. I once compared Connolly to Phil Neville so I know what you mean about risking ridicule but that's how I see it. The other option would have been to keep hold of Martina as cover as with no Europe he wouldn't be required to play many games.

 

[Nymzee]

Gordon finally called up for England.

 

[DanEFC92]

David Henen has joined Royal Charleroi in the Belgian league.

 

[stretford blue]

Surprised Galloway and Browning have not managed a loan interesting to see Feeney progressing

 

[Ring master]

Antony Evans WITH THE ONLY GOAL OF THE 1ST HALF at Blackburn U23S-1-0 it is to EVETON U23S
He took aim from 25 yards and his low drive hit the inside of the post and nestles into the back of the net.

We will be top based on ht scores

 

[Barnfred 55]

I just don’t think he’s good enough for that level.

He isn't. Yet.

He may never be. Then again he might.

I hope you get a "shock"

 

[Barnfred 55]

Surprised Galloway and Browning have not managed a loan interesting to see Feeney progressing

Great to see Feeney back. May be on the subs bench for the first team tomorrowlol

 

[Ring master]

2-0 Everton u23s on 65mins at Blackburn-Broadhead the scorer

Markelo with a ball down the right to Sambou, who centres from the byline and Broadhead coolly strokes home first time

 

[blueloon]

Seems like we’re dominating from the feed. Shame Feeney’s only just coming back, with Pennington going on loan he’d be a good bet for the subs bench tomorrow.

 

[Ring master]

3-0 Everton u23s on 88mins,Evans with his 2nd

Broadhead cuts inside and sees his shot saved by Albinson, but Evans is on hand to force the rebound over the line for his second of the night. 0-3

 

[Ring master]

Everton end the night as the leaders of premier league 2 after goals from Evans [2] and Broadhead give Everton a 3-0 win at Blackburn and made it 2 wins/2 draws from the 1st 4 games,and at worst we will go into the 2 week break in 2nd place depending on Derby v Leicester monday night,the next Everton u23s game is away to Derby at the minute on the monday after the break and is Live on the Derby website [if they dont change]
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meanwhile the u18 Leaders Everton with 3 wins from 3, game away at Blackburn, is now next week,Everton can be overtaken at the top for the week by one of 3 teams man utd/man city or Liverpool tomorrow

 

[Nymzee]

He isn't. Yet.

He may never be. Then again he might.

I hope you get a "shock"

Me too, Freddy.

 

[Ring master]

Everton end the night as the leaders of premier league 2 after goals from Evans [2] and Broadhead give Everton a 3-0 win at Blackburn and made it 2 wins/2 draws from the 1st 4 games,and at worst we will go into the 2 week break in 2nd place depending on Derby v Leicester monday night,the next Everton u23s game is away to Derby at the minute on the monday after the break and is Live on the Derby website [if they dont change]
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meanwhile the u18 Leaders Everton with 3 wins from 3, game away at Blackburn, is now next week,Everton can be overtaken at the top for the week by one of 3 teams man utd/man city or Liverpool tomorrow

Everton are 2nd on GD till next week when we play our game in hand,Liverpool win 2-1 at stoke,stoke hit woodwork in injury time,Man city down to 10 at the time score late to take a 2-1 lead at Derby but then conceed on 90 to end 2-2,and man utd lose 3-1 at Boro

 

[EfcTon]

To throw my two pennies is. I am not sure Gomez has looked better than Holgate. Both of them look talented players but both have mistakes in them. Holgate's get punished more brutally because he's in a poorer team but I actually think he's made less mistakes than Gomez and has actually had far more experience at CB than him.

The Alexander Arnold/Kenny one is more clear cut. It's funny as this time 15 months ago, you watched both lads at reserve level, both playing right back and there was no doubt who the superior player was. In the reserve derby Kenny was better. For the entirety of that season he was the stand out right back in the youth league. He'd had some first team experience and did very well. He then won the World Cup for the under 20's (a squad TAA didn't make) and was one of the best players at the tournament. IF you'd have asked anyone at that moment which lad puts a late run to get into the England squad 99 out of 100 say Kenny.

Both lads get opportunities because of other lads injuries but without doubt Arnold seized his chance more than Kenny. It may be Arnold over performed and comes back down to earth a bit this season (a bit like Davies, who over performed then resorted to mean). I do think though, Arnold is a much better athlete than Kenny. He's quicker and stronger. He has great technique, but Kenny's technique is good enough for that to be competitive (he delivered crosses well).

I think thats the big thing for me with Kenny. I think he lacks a yard of pace. Everything else in his game is very good. However I think it's hard to be 5 ft 9/10 (even with a good spring) and lack pace in that position. You either need to be taller and more competent defensively or quicker. I am hoping part of this was down to Allardyce/Koeman/The chaos at the club. That they stifled him. In that defence he had always looked quick and attacking as a full back for the 23's and England youth teams so there may be something in it. However there is another part of me that thinks pace is rarely stifled, you are either quick or not. We will see I suppose.

Kenny can be a solid defender and might surprise a few by getting forward more but thats my one concern. It's what differentiates Arnold from his presently. I think Kenny is the better defender and knows the position better, a better tackler, better in the air. However Arnold goes past players and that skill has elevated him so far.

No its because Arnold was playing for one of the best teams in the workd whereas kenny was playing for one of the worst teams. Its not that arnold seized his chance, he had arguably the best coach in the world helping him, whereas Kenny had... Alardyce.... put Kenny in that Liverpool team and Arnold in last seasons Everton team and their performances would be reversed.