Everton Youth Teams Thread

[catcherintherye]

....from what I’ve seen, Broadhead is a more talented footballer than Simms but I‘m not sure if he’s more effective than Simms. Perhaps the club have decided to move Simms on and still think Broadhead has a chance.

The under 23's teams form picked up massively when he went to striker over Simms. He knits the play better, makes better runs etc. He is 3 years older than Simms though, and Simms in 3 years may end up superior.

I hope it's not a 1 year deal to try and sell him, as frankly I can't see many big money suitors. I'd imagine it's a 1 year deal to perhaps help what is quite a younger under 23's through another season, which is the sort of pragmatism gthat can happen.

If you're Broadhead you have to weigh it up. It's likely he will be on better money here than at League 1 level, but the opportuntiy to earn a 2-3 year contract and play regularly has to be factored in. You have to factor in he will be 24 when he leaves if he signs this contract. I can imagine a few teams moght want to take a punt on him.

 

[mightymoyes]

Even this year Simms scored 8 in 12 which is pretty similar record to Broadhead since his move to striker. Simms has probably played his way into a Championship loan next season, Broadhead started off well, tailed off and didn't manage to get a loan this season. Again whilst being 3 years older.

how did he tail off? he consistently scored since moving up front after simms went on loan.
he was injured in the 1st half of the season which is why he didnt get a loan himself.

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

how did he tail off? he consistently scored since moving up front after simms went on loan.
he was injured in the 1st half of the season which is why he didnt get a loan himself.

He tailed off on his L1 loan, he mightve started strong but fitness meant he played less than half a season. He got hurt after the season had started this season and also failed to get a loan in January. If a club wanted him on loan this season he was more than available

 

[mightymoyes]

another one making a strange decision to accept a 1 year deal instead of taking a move

 

[Cameron Manning]

changed to 1 leg 3 years ago

Thanks for that Moysie, I didn’t know that.

 

[Nymzee]

another one making a strange decision to accept a 1 year deal instead of taking a move

It's a cushy lifestyle for them.

 

[blueblue]

We are introducing very young players to the under 23s, so having a couple of "older" heads there is not the worst thing.

Players develop at different rates and just maybe they see something in Broadhead for the future.
He can finish and he does have pace.

 

[Nymzee]

We are introducing very young players to the under 23s, so having a couple of "older" heads there is not the worst thing.

Players develop at different rates and just maybe they see something in Broadhead for the future.
He can finish and he does have pace.

Pointless to me really. It's not a league to win, it's a league to develop.

 

[mightymoyes]

We are introducing very young players to the under 23s, so having a couple of "older" heads there is not the worst thing.

Players develop at different rates and just maybe they see something in Broadhead for the future.
He can finish and he does have pace.

hes too old to see something for the future, if he wasnt getting opportunities this season he never will

 

[catcherintherye]

It's a cushy lifestyle for them.

Thats it. I remember reading Ryan Ledson who said once he'd played league football on loan, he never wanted to go back to being an under 23 with Everton. It's a lot harder route to break out and in the short term will likely mean it's harder to make money, but in the long term, I don't think you can beat getting 100-150 competitive games under your belt by the time you are say 22/23 as opposed to playing very little.

It's difficult though. If you take Joe Anderson he's probably not a lad who this summer you are going to have loads of teams cuing up to sign. For him, another year earningmaybe 5, maybe 10k per week must be very tempting. He's in a position where in 2-3 years he could quite conceivably be playing part time earning a couple of hundred quid a game so the opportunity to get another 500k (250k after tax) must be really tempting. Thats before you factor in all of the added benefits.

I read about a 38 year old (Kopite as it happens recently) who is going from club to club and gone down to Newport in Wales. But at that level you are talking it's 1k per week basic with bonuses taking you to 2k. Yearly contracts and the expectation you pay for a lot of your own travel and the like. It's a completely different world from the Premier League.

On the specific of Anderson, I'm not really in favour of us keeping lads beyond 19/20 but I can see some reasoning for it. He's kept growing and is now a lot taller than he was at 18, and has gone from being a left sided player into being a centre back. They may want to ahve a look at him for another season in a new position.

 

[MikeH72]

We need Unsworth and Kenwright gone tbh.

 

[blueblue]

Pointless to me really. It's not a league to win, it's a league to develop.

But, young players learn from more experienced players around them.
Putting out a team of 17 year olds will teach them very little.

That is why the young lads are brought in to train with the first team.
Everyone knows they are not close to being ready to play but it is a chance to learn.

 

[MikeH72]

But, young players learn from more experienced players around them.
Putting out a team of 17 year olds will teach them very little.

That is why the young lads are brought in to train with the first team.
Everyone knows they are not close to being ready to play but it is a chance to learn.

What the hell is anyone going to learn from Nathan Broadhead? What experience has he had in football?

 

[mightymoyes]

Thats it. I remember reading Ryan Ledson who said once he'd played league football on loan, he never wanted to go back to being an under 23 with Everton. It's a lot harder route to break out and in the short term will likely mean it's harder to make money, but in the long term, I don't think you can beat getting 100-150 competitive games under your belt by the time you are say 22/23 as opposed to playing very little.

It's difficult though. If you take Joe Anderson he's probably not a lad who this summer you are going to have loads of teams cuing up to sign. For him, another year earningmaybe 5, maybe 10k per week must be very tempting. He's in a position where in 2-3 years he could quite conceivably be playing part time earning a couple of hundred quid a game so the opportunity to get another 500k (250k after tax) must be really tempting. Thats before you factor in all of the added benefits.

I read about a 38 year old (Kopite as it happens recently) who is going from club to club and gone down to Newport in Wales. But at that level you are talking it's 1k per week basic with bonuses taking you to 2k. Yearly contracts and the expectation you pay for a lot of your own travel and the like. It's a completely different world from the Premier League.

On the specific of Anderson, I'm not really in favour of us keeping lads beyond 19/20 but I can see some reasoning for it. He's kept growing and is now a lot taller than he was at 18, and has gone from being a left sided player into being a centre back. They may want to ahve a look at him for another season in a new position.

the echo article states: "The left-footed centre-back has been attracting interest from a host of Championship clubs who could offer the 20-year-old an immediate route into first-team football."

if that is remotely true he should not be staying here.

 

[Nymzee]

But, young players learn from more experienced players around them.
Putting out a team of 17 year olds will teach them very little.

That is why the young lads are brought in to train with the first team.
Everyone knows they are not close to being ready to play but it is a chance to learn.

Do you consider 20-year old never played a minute of senior football Joe Anderson an experienced head to learn from?