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Everton Youth Teams Thread

chazzle_dazzle said:
See Carlisle are after Joe Williams on loan and have been turned down
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Everton's U21s midfielder Joe Williams says he has become a lot more patient as he has grown through the club's Academy but says he will be ready when the call to the first team comes.

Still only 18, Williams's stock has risen significantly in recent months and he has reportedly attracted interest from rival clubs like Manchester United.
Now captain of the Blues' second string, the Liverpool-born midfielder is clearly being groomed for Everton's senior side, however, and he has described how cutting his teeth in training sessions against the first team players has helped his development.
"It was a good little battle because I’m competitive and they’d come off and say ‘he’s just been kicking me there’," Williams says in the Liverpool Echo reflecting on practice game he experienced at Finch Farm when he was still a raw 16-year-old.
“It was a good test for me. Because they were dead quick and it was hard to get used to the pace, there were times when I would ‘leave one in’ by accident.
“Training with the first-team is normal now. I treat it as if I’m training with the under-21s. They’re all sound with me.”
Williams also describes the high standards expected of him and his team-mates from U21s manager David Unsworth, again with progression to Roberto Martinez's first team in mind.
“Players like Barry, McCarthy, Gibson, Besic, everyone, they’ve all got high 80s and 90% for pass completion rates,” he continues. “So Unsy has been telling me that he wants me to get 90s every single week, he even told me once that he wanted me to get 100!
“I’ve never really come close to 100 but he expects high standards .”
Williams has only been named in the senior squad once, that for the Europa League dead rubber against FK Krasnodar in December 2014 where he was an unused substitute but he admits he is looking forward to the day when he can play for Everton at first-team level.
“When I was younger, I wasn’t as patient as I am now," he explains. "I would be a bit gutted if I wasn’t moving up but I am maturing now and when I am ready to play, I will play.
“Being captain has matured me. It has brought me on a lot this year, having to lead the lads and lead on the pitch.
“There is a bit more on it for me, I want the lads to win as much. I like having pressure on me and I love playing in big games. It is something I think I can handle.
“I just want to make that step up now.”

spotted this on toffeeweb other day.just thought of it there when you mentioned him
 
This was what Keith Curle had to say

"We showed an interest in him after we'd watched him two or three times," Curle told the official Carlisle website. "I had a conversation with (manager) Roberto (Martinez) just after we played Everton (in the FA Cup) and he passed us on to Joe Royle and David Unsworth, who ultimately make the decisions for the lad.

"I also spoke to his representatives but I fully understand that Everton want to wait to see how close he gets to the first team and also see what other options he has available.

"In their opinion another option might suit him more than ourselves, but we won't stamp our feet.

"He's their player and they're paying his wages.

"They're well within their rights to do what they think is best for their player."
 
Don't know if we should take that he might be making a push for the first team before the end of the season, or its a polite no your [Poor language removed] someone better will be in for him hahahaha.
 
bluebrotha77 said:
Everton's U21s midfielder Joe Williams says he has become a lot more patient as he has grown through the club's Academy but says he will be ready when the call to the first team comes.

Still only 18, Williams's stock has risen significantly in recent months and he has reportedly attracted interest from rival clubs like Manchester United.
Now captain of the Blues' second string, the Liverpool-born midfielder is clearly being groomed for Everton's senior side, however, and he has described how cutting his teeth in training sessions against the first team players has helped his development.
"It was a good little battle because I’m competitive and they’d come off and say ‘he’s just been kicking me there’," Williams says in the Liverpool Echo reflecting on practice game he experienced at Finch Farm when he was still a raw 16-year-old.
“It was a good test for me. Because they were dead quick and it was hard to get used to the pace, there were times when I would ‘leave one in’ by accident.
“Training with the first-team is normal now. I treat it as if I’m training with the under-21s. They’re all sound with me.”
Williams also describes the high standards expected of him and his team-mates from U21s manager David Unsworth, again with progression to Roberto Martinez's first team in mind.
“Players like Barry, McCarthy, Gibson, Besic, everyone, they’ve all got high 80s and 90% for pass completion rates,” he continues. “So Unsy has been telling me that he wants me to get 90s every single week, he even told me once that he wanted me to get 100!
“I’ve never really come close to 100 but he expects high standards .”
Williams has only been named in the senior squad once, that for the Europa League dead rubber against FK Krasnodar in December 2014 where he was an unused substitute but he admits he is looking forward to the day when he can play for Everton at first-team level.
“When I was younger, I wasn’t as patient as I am now," he explains. "I would be a bit gutted if I wasn’t moving up but I am maturing now and when I am ready to play, I will play.
“Being captain has matured me. It has brought me on a lot this year, having to lead the lads and lead on the pitch.
“There is a bit more on it for me, I want the lads to win as much. I like having pressure on me and I love playing in big games. It is something I think I can handle.
“I just want to make that step up now.”

spotted this on toffeeweb other day.just thought of it there when you mentioned him
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Getting excited at the chance to see the lads in Dallas in a few weeks
 
chazzle_dazzle said:
This was what Keith Curle had to say

"We showed an interest in him after we'd watched him two or three times," Curle told the official Carlisle website. "I had a conversation with (manager) Roberto (Martinez) just after we played Everton (in the FA Cup) and he passed us on to Joe Royle and David Unsworth, who ultimately make the decisions for the lad.

"I also spoke to his representatives but I fully understand that Everton want to wait to see how close he gets to the first team and also see what other options he has available.

"In their opinion another option might suit him more than ourselves, but we won't stamp our feet.

"He's their player and they're paying his wages.

"They're well within their rights to do what they think is best for their player."
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Ya remember curle at the time seeming very confident of getting a young blue but not going to happen it seems unless he is offered someone else.
 

bluebrotha77 said:
You like has been said on here already going to be a great test for them both on and off the field.
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Would be interested to hear their unfiltered take on the tournament. We know that U21s isn't very competitive, but U18s can be. Some of these U19 squads in Dallas will be tough and un-scouted, but others haven't been up to the level of the competition. I imagine it's a great experience, given how little you can (presumably) prepare for the competition.
 
SerenityNigh said:
Would be interested to hear their unfiltered take on the tournament. We know that U21s isn't very competitive, but U18s can be. Some of these U19 squads in Dallas will be tough and un-scouted, but others haven't been up to the level of the competition. I imagine it's a great experience, given how little you can (presumably) prepare for the competition.
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Must be interesting for the coaches to see how the lads handle the travel, climate, oppositions with different playing styles, short recovery times, being away from their family and comfort zone etc

Almost as much to learn about the lads off the pitch as on it I'd guess.
 
Coffee and TV said:
That letter to the Arsenal board that he cosigned with Usmanov mentioned how they wanted to buy players that could go straight into the first team to complement the longstanding tradition the club had of bringing their own players through from the academy. I actually think Moshiri will invest in the academy, probably starting with buying it outright and then building the accommodation that Martinez was talking about ages ago.
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I took that letter to mean that although Arsenal had a very strong youth development setup with players being brought through, they also wanted to see the club making BIG money signings in some key areas to improve the team.

For us, i would take that to mean that if there was a top young player coming through in DM for example then no need to make a signing, however if we were weak at GK with no exceptional player coming through then we "should/would/could" sign the very best available to improve the team.

Also noted the comments on their stadium which gave me the impression overall that they werent thrilled about the best players being sold such as RVP and the effect on the transfer budget while it was being built. It appears that Moshiri wants the team to be of absolute top quality and would not have any stadium plans impact on the team.

This means keeping the "crown jewels", investing in yourh and signing the best players we are able to.

i hope :)
 
chazzle_dazzle said:
This was what Keith Curle had to say

"We showed an interest in him after we'd watched him two or three times," Curle told the official Carlisle website. "I had a conversation with (manager) Roberto (Martinez) just after we played Everton (in the FA Cup) and he passed us on to Joe Royle and David Unsworth, who ultimately make the decisions for the lad.

"I also spoke to his representatives but I fully understand that Everton want to wait to see how close he gets to the first team and also see what other options he has available.

"In their opinion another option might suit him more than ourselves, but we won't stamp our feet.

"He's their player and they're paying his wages.

"They're well within their rights to do what they think is best for their player."
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Saw a few Carlisle fans joke about how he obviously didn't want to watch the defense lump the ball up the pitch for 90 minutes, could be their style of play and that we don't think he'd get enough time on the ball for it to benefit him.
 

SerenityNigh said:
Would be interested to hear their unfiltered take on the tournament. We know that U21s isn't very competitive, but U18s can be. .
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Well it seems that's it's generally accepted that the "u21 PL" league is not competitive, but I wonder if that is really the case all the time. Man Utd focused on that league last year and kept a very competitive squad together , won it , are doing something similar this season and I would guess that of all the teams they've had the most u21 players breaking into their first team squad the last two seasons.
Liam Walsh is an excellent player who's goal from half way for the u 18s really caught the eye. At u 21?level did he really stand out as being a regular man of the match or far better than Dowell, Davies, Evans, Ledson or Williams ? No not really. It's fantastic that he's pushed on so much at Yeovil, where he is clearly regularly one of their best players. Same with Ledson and Kenny both good players winning MoM awards . It's no coincidence that the person getting most stick from fans is Garbutt, who's playing Championship level , much more competitive. Last season we had Pennington winning Young player of the year award at Coventry , this year he's back with the u 21s, all be it having suffered injury.
Maybe that's part of the thinking with Joe Williams. Why send someone who's playing very well for the u 21 s out to a club where I'm sure he would stand out as an individual , maybe not develop as much but would receive exposure away from home with another club and all that brings.
Just an alternative view point that players staying with the u 21 s, playing matches ( not enough is a big problem) training with the first team , getting regular FF coaching can also do well even if in a league deemed uncompetitive.
 

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