Farhad Moshiri

[MikeH72]

Thanks for the white nets Farhad, greatly improved my match day experience.

Genuinely though.

 

[Papa Shango]

That summer was a disaster.

Koeman didnt come in until midway through, he cant go and get players in without knowing what a manager wants.

Things wont change overnight.

 

[TommyDavo]

According to transfermarkt we paid out £46.07m and got back £47.26m. Now I think I understand that in this thread we want to bash Moshiri so have to ignore the fact that we had to give Barnsley 15% or circa £7m, but can somebody point me to the threads in which we acknowledge that more money went out than came in.

 

[BlueToff]

Koeman didnt come in until midway through, he cant go and get players in without knowing what a manager wants.

Things wont change overnight.

He's a WUM

 

[tlefc]

Koeman didnt come in until midway through, he cant go and get players in without knowing what a manager wants.

Things wont change overnight.

I'd like to see at least a bit of progress. A negative net spend, sell to buy and our owner making a clown of himself in the media felt very samey.

 

[Papa Shango]

According to transfermarkt we paid out £46.07m and got back £47.26m. Now I think I understand that in this thread we want to bash Moshiri so have to ignore the fact that we had to give Barnsley 15% or circa £7m, but can somebody point me to the threads in which we acknowledge that more money went out than came in.

There is also the fact that these new players coming in are not playing for free.

Stones wouldnt have been on loads, the new players who came in will be making good money. Nobody ever takes wages into account.

 

[windymiller]

According to transfermarkt we paid out £46.07m and got back £47.26m. Now I think I understand that in this thread we want to bash Moshiri so have to ignore the fact that we had to give Barnsley 15% or circa £7m, but can somebody point me to the threads in which we acknowledge that more money went out than came in.

OK, then we have to also talk about the increase in TV revenue. At the end of the day, hopefully we can all agree that not a great deal of wedge was spent/recouped. Standard Ebepton fare.

 

[BlueToff]

People again failing to take into account the massive increase in TV money.

We'd have been able to afford Sissoko and hire Koeman and Walsh regardless of how rich the owner is.

No, we wouldn't.

But okay, that's football...

 

[abelard]

I'd like to see at least a bit of progress. A negative net spend, sell to buy and our owner making a clown of himself in the media felt very samey.

modern football, where "progress" on the net spend table rates higher than progress on the league table.

 

[Papa Shango]

I'd like to see at least a bit of progress. A negative net spend, sell to buy and our owner making a clown of himself in the media felt very samey.

I think you are expecting far too much.

We still need to be a well run club who has to take into account if players will fit in, how much these players want per week to sign for us etc.

Yeah we could go out and just spend loads of money, this effects the players we already have at the club as they will want parity pay wise. It all adds up.

And more importantly, its one summer. Getting a new manager in was the most important thing and we did that. You cant expect massive changes straight away, it takes time and planning.

We are not RICH rich by the way. We still have to be careful, we just wont be scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Just throwing money at it is a dangerous game for a club like us.

 

[tlefc]

I think you are expecting far too much.

We still need to be a well run club who has to take into account if players will fit in, how much these players want per week to sign for us etc.

Yeah we could go out and just spend loads of money, this effects the players we already have at the club as they will want parity pay wise. It all adds up.

And more importantly, its one summer. Getting a new manager in was the most important thing and we did that. You cant expect massive changes straight away, it takes time and planning.

We are not RICH rich by the way. We still have to be careful, we just wont be scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Just throwing money at it is a dangerous game for a club like us.

I'm not wanting Moshiri to be just throwing cash around on dross but I reckon he could have given it a better go than making a 3m profit and signing Enner Valencia on loan on deadline day.

 

[tlefc]

modern football, where "progress" on the net spend table rates higher than progress on the league table.

Under Kenwright we were consistently in the top 6/7. That didn't make him infallible.

 

[madden95]

That summer was a disaster.

barely mate replaced a failing manager with a good ambitious one, signed up steve walsh which is a coup none of which would off if kenwright was in charge, we owe no debt, signed some really good players, are team is playing a lot better first summer not too bad next summer will be the one to judge!

 

[TommyDavo]

OK, then we have to also talk about the increase in TV revenue. At the end of the day, hopefully we can all agree that not a great deal of wedge was spent/recouped. Standard Ebepton fare.

And now we get to the nub of the whole net spend argument. Does it matter whether the money comes from selling warm Chang or Stones ( sure that used to be a bitter). In the end it should be total money in less total money out irrespective of source and for me that should always be a negative spend for the company. Now if FM decides he wants to part with his personal fortune (stop laughing at the back) then that's a different matter.

 

[Papa Shango]

I'm not wanting Moshiri to be just throwing cash around on dross but I reckon he could have given it a better go than making a 3m profit and signing Enner Valencia on loan on deadline day.

Do you not think that we all want that?

Of course we do, most of us realize that its not something that can be changed overnight though.

We wanted Gabbiadini and Perez (That's the Arsenal fella right?) We didnt manage to get either of them due to Gabbiadini wanting to stay in Italy and Perez wanting to join Arsenal instead.

Koeman or Walsh had obviously identified them as the players needed to improve us, going down to the third. fourth, fifth option is risky and they probably require looking at a bit more.

I would prefer to take a risk free Valencia on loan than chuck loads of money on a third choice panic buy and tie him down to us for five years on big wages.

With a bit more time and Koeman having a bit more knowledge about his players maybe the next time we go in for players will prove more fruitful?

That probably wont be in January either for obvious reasons...